Raptor vs. 4Runner TRD Pro

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I was/am going through a similar question. I've been driving tuned diesel trucks for quite some time so replacing the power and torque is tough. I've owned a 2012 cts-v and 2016 SRT cherokee over the last few years also. I am currently in a 2018 tuned f350 power stroke. I'm looking at the T4R Pro, 2019 raptor or 2019 power stroke (I want a nicer package than I'm currently in). I don't absolutely need the big diesel truck, but I like the ability to pull/haul anything I want and use the power on the highway. I also live on an acreage and haul materials/equipment somewhat regularly to support that. For me it's lines up like this (based on my only vehicle):

T4R Pro, positives
1. $50k investment, can be had under MSRP if willing to travel/be patient
2. Offroad capable for nearly everyone other than those living a fantasy or have need for rock buggy. Rear locker, ATRAC and crawl control work.
3. Forces me to slow down and not be overwhelmed with tech. Positive in such a fast-paced life.
4. Reliable as hell; built in japan.
5. Plenty of room for family of four
6. Resale value. As good or better than raptor.
7. Not many T4R Pros where I'm at.
8. I wouldn't spend a ton of money on mods like I would a jeep, etc... because it wouldn't make sense.

T4R, negatives
1. $50k investment for lack of tech and lack of power.
2. Doesn't do anything extremely well.
3. Ride quality decent.
4. No exterior hauling capabilities.
5. Did I mention lack of power.
6. Hard to haul bloody coyotes.

Raptor, positives
1. Power and tuning potential.
2. Ride quality.
3. Not many where I live.
4. Huge back seat for two car seats.
5. All the tech you could want.
6. Can haul what I want, within reason.
7. Resale value, at this point.
8. Offroad potential.

Raptor, negatives
1. $70k investment.
2. I would spend $10k on mods.
3. Lack of torque compared to what I'm in today.
4. Different direction for me, not sure how long before "new" wears off.
5. Unsure of long-term reliability.

I've beat this to death over the last few weeks. My financial planner would tell me to sell my truck and buy a 2002 impala. My wife tells me to buy whatever the hell my heart desires. What to do, what to do.
 

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agreed with most here - we also have a 17 4runner in the stable which the wife drives. its a great truck, reliable as hell, great in snow and off road. but in terms of overall driving experience otherwise known as the smile factor, i dread taking her car anywhere over the raptor. it is a hell of lot nicer to park in a parking spot though
 

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I had test drove it before, and had a fj cruiser as well. The problem is power, both were super slow, really needs a supercharger

I believe Magnuson is still making them but the power increase is minimal.
 

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I have a 17 Raptor and she has a 17 4Runner Limited. Agree with all above, especially the 4Runner gutless engine comment. Would a throttle response mechanism such as pedal commander help the Toyota? The Toyota really is slow...
 

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I have a 17 Raptor and she has a 17 4Runner Limited. Agree with all above, especially the 4Runner gutless engine comment. Would a throttle response mechanism such as pedal commander help the Toyota? The Toyota really is slow...
Maybe a little but they just don't make enough power/torque low in the rev range. SC would fix the low end power
 

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When I was at FPRC Raptor Assault last summer I asked if they had other manufacturers vehicles out on the same terrain for comparison. They said they did for a tire manufacturer's photo shoot with Raptors, Jeeps, LRs, and Toyotas all side by side. They said all the others did very well in the climbs and slow maneuvers, but at the higher speeds on the rough terrain getting out to the climbs, well if you call 30mph higher, they were all very rough to drive at that speed. One of the things I like about the Raptor is how it eats up bumps like they don't exist, and you can't see that in a picture or by comparing specs, you have to drive it.
 
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