Raptor broke down again!

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Had a gen 1 (2014) sold for a Audi S6...warranty is up in 2022 and considering going back to a raptor..which is why I’m still on the forum..miss having my gen 1 but I’ve been seeing a lot of threads with people having issues. My buddy down the street has an 18 and had cam phaser issues.

The only issue in my gen 1 was the sun roof....which also happened in my 2010 king ranch.

Ford is making it really had for me to switch back to another raptor...it’s a shame




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No issues with my 2017 with 42K miles. I feel bad for the people that have issues with theirs. But life is too short to worry about issues that I don't have.
 

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That would be folks saying things online that they’d never say to the persons face You’d get your 12 year old ass beat where I come from Why don’t we up the minimum age for this site.

I’m saying it’s dumb to try to accelerate hard in 10th gear and you’re talking about beating people’s asses on the internet. Who’s the Internet tough guy exactly? *******.

nobody cares where you’re from.
 

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$70?? In CA, we usually pay at MSRP then + tax, license and all the BS fee and sometimes Mark up, it rings up to $80K or slightly more sometimes.

I agree with you, paying that much money for a truck , shit like this shouldn't happen... I had a 2009 Silverado, never had an issue until hitting 100K miles . My other german cars/SUV, never had any issue either.


Well... You live in California... There is a lotta good reasons why so many people are moving outta there...
 

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Was driving out of town tonight and when I got on the freeway, my dash lit up with all the usual BS lights (adaptive cruise not available, collision assist fault, etc) and now power train fault!

I was able to idle to a local ford dealer at 10MPH when flooring it. At stoplights, the engine stutters and almost dies.

Luckily my dad was here with his late 90’s suburban to still get to where I’m going. It’s amazing that a 20 year old Chevy is more reliable than a modern ford!

the only code I was able to read was P0068 - mass airflow. Anyone else have this?

I am so disappointed. This might be it for the Raptor. I drive in the mountains a lot, outside of cell reception and having a brand new car keep failing isn’t an option. Any advice?
Are you running a Pedal Commander, by chance? If so, take it off.
I regularly run mine in M10 on the highway, never had an issue. Even pulling out to pass someone.
 
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somehow we got onto wheel sensors, OP reported: the only code I was able to read was P0068 - mass airflow. and this was the cause of the limp home mode.



well... I don’t think that’s a fair criticism, I had an old Chevy that popped a fusible link in the battery cable one day, everything just went dark at speed. I was able to coast over to the side of the road and wait for a tow. that was an ’88 model truck. The Rap has more tech in the cabin than that whole Chevy truck had.

you had a powertrain issue and resulting fault.


I have a late ’16 build 2017 MY and there have been lots of PCM updates since but unless you report a problem, they won’t update it for you even if you ask. The tech just plugs in the machine and it passes their checks and that’s it unless you raise some sort of concern that a PCM update would address.

Apparently you did. Maybe the issue isn’t unique to the Raptor?
https://www.troublecodes.net/pcodes/p0068/

P0068 means that the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) has detected an excessive degree of variation in the input voltage signal from the throttle position sensor (TPS) as compared with voltage input signals from the mass air flow (MAF) sensor and the manifold air pressure (MAP) sensor. The PCM reads and calculates these individual engine drivability sensor signals and then compares them to help develop fuel delivery and ignition timing strategy. The PCM also utilizes this information to ensure that the fuel-to-air ratio remains constant, controllable, and within acceptable limitations. If the detected voltage values of these three sensors (triangulated) fail to coincide with programmed desired parameters, over a specific period of time or engine revolutions, a diagnostic trouble code will be stored and a malfunction indicator lamp will likely be illuminated.

That’s a good link. I’m wondering if the throttle body could be failing causing an inconsistency in the TPS voltage vs what the servo is commanded to do.

Are you running a Pedal Commander, by chance? If so, take it off.
I regularly run mine in M10 on the highway, never had an issue. Even pulling out to pass someone.

That’s a good thought but no, it’s all stock.
 
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Had a gen 1 (2014) sold for a Audi S6...warranty is up in 2022 and considering going back to a raptor..which is why I’m still on the forum..miss having my gen 1 but I’ve been seeing a lot of threads with people having issues. My buddy down the street has an 18 and had cam phaser issues.

The only issue in my gen 1 was the sun roof....which also happened in my 2010 king ranch.

Ford is making it really had for me to switch back to another raptor...it’s a shame




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And maybe those of us with issues are so loud that we make the truck seem more problematic than it is. I love my Raptor when it functions well but I’m certainly loosing trust in it.

As I’ve said above, it’s not acceptable for so many errors to be created from one malfunction. I’ve heard from multiple sources “it had too many errors to figure out what the problem was so we just reset it”. I should be able to unplug various sensors and have the vehicle continue to drive as best it can without input from that sensor.

On my Evo, I can even unplug the mass airflow sensor and drive home! Of course it drives poorly but it still works. This is a common trick for when you blow an IC pipe off which causes the MAF to read incorrectly. On my DSM, I’ve had a failed wheel speed sensor for years. My ABS light stays on but the car continues to function.
 

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I don't think Ford is accounting for people who have no idea how to drive. Like hard acceleration in M10. No articulation beyond retarded is necessary, because that's exactly what it is. There's a reason why you were asked why, and you didn't really have an answer. Because it's dumb, and you can't justify dumb.
I don't appreciate the insults, although they are like tracers sometimes.
 

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Been there, done that. I'm about to dump my 18 Raptor.

First - timing belt tensioner. It was gone nearly a month while this issue was resolved. Happened around 14,000 miles or so.

Second - charging system fault. Cable from the alternator to the fuse box worked itself loose on a trip from Texas to Arkansas. Bad timing.

Third - wrench icon when driving down the highway. Went into limp mode. Replaced throttle body, air speed sensor and turbo boost sensor. Happened around 22,000 miles.

Fourth - APIM went bad. Touchscreen stopped working, blue tooth stopped working, steering wheel radio controls stopped working. Took about 3 days to fix. Happened around 26,000 miles.

Fifth - Check engine light. Crankcase pressure sensor had to be replaced. Happened at 34,500 miles.
 
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