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OEMPlus Raptor

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I go on a big trip every year to places like Aruba, Hawaii , etc. it’s sponsored by one of my vendors( I have to spend at least $250K). Other than landing at airports in Cali to layover to catch another flight, I’ve never visited there. A great many of the people on the trip with me are from California and I have to say, they seem like great people with same value set as me. Sadly as the regulatory requirements in California get more and more restrictive , most of them tell me they will be forced to retire as they can’t afford the equipment to meet regulatory requirements. Most of my California counterparts are in some way involved in providing water to mostly large agricultural operations. If the regulations are affecting the people in my line of work, I’d have to think it’s going to affect the agricultural operation also. It’s seems to me that for all the “ green” policies to work, a whole lot of people better be prepared to die on this planet.
I must say coming in for a landing at the airports. I can see some beautiful countryside.
I work in agriculture and we are well aware of the issues with water regulations not to mention the cost of our materials and other growing cost. We've lost a lot acres due to worm damage and other natural causes.
 

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My father was a small farmer. The state did everything possible to put small farmers out of business. He retired before they succeeded.
 

CigarPundit

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It's my home regardless of the politics its what I call home and where I've made my life. If you saw people constantly taking shots at Colorado you would be annoyed after awhile. It's like the annoying uncle telling the same old tire joke during a family gathering and if you don't live here who cares. If it's so bad, just be glad you live elsewhere.
I can't speak on Colorado because I don't live there and don't care to follow it much less its politics.
Believe it or not were all not miserable here. We all have issues, ups and downs like anyone else. California is not as bad as the news makes it out be, it's a big state and there's plenty of nice places to live......and that's where I will leave it.
I was born and raised in California. I lived there my whole life until I was in my mid-50s. I lived in LA, Santa Monica, Palo Alto, San Francisco, Pasadena, and Pacific Palisades. It’s a spectacular state and people love living there for a host of compelling reasons. I could go to the beach in the morning and enjoy the surf, fly my slope gliders on an ocean bluff after lunch on the pier, and be at my mountain cabin in Big Bear surrounded by 8 feet of snow and the ski slopes by nightfall. If you haven’t really lived there, you can’t understand how spectacular it is. LA and SF have the best of everything. Santa Barbara is just a couple of hours up the coast from LA (or a 45 min flight from Santa Monica if you have access to a Cessna). I made a lot of great memories in California and it will always hold a special place in my heart.

It genuinely angers me what has happened to that state over the last 30 years. The politics literally drove me out. By the time I left, I was spitting nails about what LA, Santa Monica and the Palisades had become. San Francisco and the Bay Area was, without question, one of the nicest places to live on the planet. Now these places are dystopian hellscapes.

Outside these major cities there are still plenty of nice places in Cali, but even those places live under the thumb of the corrupt lib-t@ard morons in Sacramento. They deserve nothing but ridicule and contempt, as does the state as a whole for how the majority of its people vote, and think. As much as I have loved that state, I will never go back again and leaving it was the best thing that ever happened to me. I‘m so much happier in my little slice of redneck paradise.

FJB, and FGN. And F Sacramento and the idiots who put those bastards in the state house.
 

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I was born and raised in California. I lived there my whole life until I was in my mid-50s. I lived in LA, Santa Monica, Palo Alto, San Francisco, Pasadena, and Pacific Palisades. It’s a spectacular state and people love living there for a host of compelling reasons. I could go to the beach in the morning and enjoy the surf, fly my slope gliders on an ocean bluff after lunch on the pier, and be at my mountain cabin in Big Bear surrounded by 8 feet of snow and the ski slopes by nightfall. If you haven’t really lived there, you can’t understand how spectacular it is. LA and SF have the best of everything. Santa Barbara is just a couple of hours up the coast from LA (or a 45 min flight from Santa Monica if you have access to a Cessna). I made a lot of great memories in California and it will always hold a special place in my heart.

It genuinely angers me what has happened to that state over the last 30 years. The politics literally drove me out. By the time I left, I was spitting nails about what LA, Santa Monica and the Palisades had become. San Francisco and the Bay Area was, without question, one of the nicest places to live on the planet. Now these places are dystopian hellscapes.

Outside these major cities there are still plenty of nice places in Cali, but even those places live under the thumb of the corrupt lib-t@ard morons in Sacramento. They deserve nothing but ridicule and contempt, as does the state as a whole for how the majority of its people vote, and think. As much as I have loved that state, I will never go back again and leaving it was the best thing that ever happened to me. I‘m so much happier in my little slice of redneck paradise.

FJB, and FGN. And F Sacramento and the idiots who put those bastards in the state house.
Not sure how old you are, but I can infer. I’m in my mid 30s and everything you said is completely accurate. I’ve always wished I could’ve lived in my parents California, that was truly the best place there was, without question. Sadly, while the natural beauty remains, nothing else does. And we will never get it back.

I’m still here but will get out someday. I still enjoy the weather, and all the beautiful places within a days drive, but the traffic, taxes, and politics are truly crippling.

It’s so sad because California has all the natural beauty and resources it could need, but has squandered it all away.
 

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Some of us call it living behind enemy lines.

I love Ca and I am far from a left wing, liberal whatever. I don't like a lot of what's going on here but it's changing and liberals are starting to eat their own. They are now complaining about the crime, homelessness immigration etc. I think there are more public liberals/closet conservatives than people actually know. Sadly, the education system is cranking out these uneducated, indoctrinated drones that contribute nothing other than drain humanity and they keep voting these clowns in.
 

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I don't like a lot of what's going on here but it's changing and liberals are starting to eat their own. They are now complaining about the crime, homelessness immigration etc. I think there are more public liberals/closet conservatives than people actually know.

I hope you're right. I hate to see such a wonderful place go to hell. It's shameful.

Not sure how old you are, but I can infer. I’m in my mid 30s and everything you said is completely accurate. I’ve always wished I could’ve lived in my parents California, that was truly the best place there was, without question. Sadly, while the natural beauty remains, nothing else does. And we will never get it back.

I’m still here but will get out someday. I still enjoy the weather, and all the beautiful places within a days drive, but the traffic, taxes, and politics are truly crippling.

It’s so sad because California has all the natural beauty and resources it could need, but has squandered it all away.

Exactly. I'm 57. When I was growing up in SoCal, my dad had a gun rack in the back window of his pickup and at least one rifle was always in the rack. We weren't the only ones, and no one gave us a second look. We used to ride dirt bikes together in the surrounding hills and go shooting in the deserts of San Bernardino and Riverside. No problem. Having a Republican governor was not an uncommon occurrence. It was a great place to live.

Now my old stomping ground is now full of homeless, illegal aliens, used syringes, cockroaches and vermin. Crime is rampant. Home invasions are happening (unheard of when I lived there), and the resident victims aren't legally allowed to smoke these motherfȕckers--there is a legal duty to retreat! It's crazy. It was such a picturesque place by the ocean on the west side of LA. Now it's a dump like everywhere else in LA. I'm revolted by it. Maybe one day the good people of California will wake up, but I doubt it because they are already "woke."
 

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I dated a woman for over five years born and raised outside of LA. It was the most incredible time of my life, although she and I never lived there, we went often to visit her family and I loved it, absolutely loved it. But she wound up taking someone else's hog at the wrong time in our bed and I walked in on it so now I hate California even though this happened on the other side of the country. Oddly enough, true story.

Seriously though, I truly truly am madly in love with San Diego and I'll eventually have a property there someday and visit whenever I can, but to live there permanently? I just don't think I could do it. I say that while really not enjoying where I'm at now, but dang, what can ya do sometimes?
 
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