GEN 2 My thoughts on my new Raptor and Questions !!

[smurfslayer]

a) lack of power, the bottom end is great but if you floor it at 110-120 km/h its got nothing.

b) the stereo is bad, it sounds like a factory base unit. MAYBE I screwed up and got a lower level stereo as I never ordered the lane assist, maybe a better stereo came with that package. A friend of mine has a Ford f150 and his stereo is way better, he said it is a SONY and it comes with a sub.

c) it takes a long time to engage drive or reverse, when I perform a 3 point turn its frustrating as I have to wait for engagement or it sounds bad.

I am deciding whether I should keep it or sell it and take the hit. If I keep it what are your recommendations to improve these issues? Thanks !!

I think I understand a; that’s about 70mph, and of course, you’re pushing almost 6k pounds here. I don’t think the transmission will downshift you far enough to get into peak power or sufficiently into the curve. Try again manually shifting and get your rpms close to 3k to start and then floor it. You’re fighting a few things here. Normal mode’s “economy or die” programming, the “don’t overrev” logic, and that you’re driving a brick shaped vehicle that is... big framed.

I’ve sometimes had issues coming off an exit ramp, particularly in ‘normal’ mode, so you’re just lumbering along at 30 or so mph, but the transmission is in 7th or 8th gear! A downshift from any OD gear to power is a longer operation than 2-7th gear. It just is. If I use sport mode, it does keep the transmission from upshifting way too high, but, if I manually shift, and come off the exit in 4th or 3rd if it’s a slower exit, I get a better response. There’s plenty of motor and she’s got 4.10 gears, and I’m having a hard time imagining how any of the competing trucks with higher gears and less power perform better in the 60-70mph acceleration category.

b) About 60%(?) of us can make no excuse for the B&O and Sony systems before it. For the money, it’s an absolute rip off. What you can do to mitigate this is directly proportional to what you’re willing to spend. I’ve got the sony, so your path will be necessarily more expensive, but check out the “under $500” thread for guidance on starting points. Prevailing wisdom is that a decent set of components up front; replace the front door speakers - and the tweeter with the component set, leave the rear doors along, wire in an amp’ed sub. B&O guys - you don’t need a DSP for just the sub do you? For the Sony system you can just cut in a sub with speaker level inputs, drop an 8” kicker in there and suddenly you have bass. If that’s not enough, I’d pick up a DSP and amp, rear door speakers- coax is probably enough here, rear doors supporting cast, not the star of the show. The main reason for replacing them is the stockers will die a horrible death with a more powerful amp.

You should be able to do the above under $1500 or so(?)

c) I can’t disagree with this, nor can I provide a workaround.

 

[rtmozingo]

Sadly thats my point, buy a 18 for 50k add 10-15 worth of add ons and away I go. I was expecting more for the price, lower the price and it works...

Hah, a Raptor here in the states isn't much more than a regular, similarly-loaded F150. In fact, if you take a F150 that has the same options as a 802a Raptor, and then invest all the money to convert the F150 parts to Raptor parts, you're at least $10k behind, probably a lot more.

The highlight of this truck is, and always has been, the suspension. For a very small increase in sticker price, you get nearly double that amount back in offroad upgrades. Now, of course you can pick up a regular truck much cheaper, since they go for 10-15 less than sticker (my dad paid $12k under sticker for his new FX4 a week ago). Ram almost gives away trucks because demand is so low they have to compensate. Classic economics there.

Now, to address your points:

1) Top end power

It is a truck, a literal brick as far as aerodynamics go. Wind resistance starts getting out of control at speeds higher than those you mention, and you can't change physics. If the TRX comes out as advertised, then it will be over $100k, and will also have this problem.

2) Stereo is bad

Sony came in the 2017, B&O after that. I've heard both, the difference is marginal IMO. Anyway, it does sound kind of meh until you adjust the equalizer in the settings. Do that and it will be much improved. I'm not a hardcore audiophile, but I do pick up on the nuances, and after adjusting the settings I have no issues with my stock system.

3) Shifting delay

I'll agree with you on this. Side effect of the 10 speed I guess? Definitely annoying, but it makes up for it everywhere else so gotta have a downside somewhere I suppose.

 

[NASSTY]

3) Shifting delay

I'll agree with you on this. Side effect of the 10 speed I guess? Definitely annoying, but it makes up for it everywhere else so gotta have a downside somewhere I suppose.

My 2011 and 2014 FX4s with the 6 speed also had a similar delay. The old 4 speed slush box in my 2006 didn't have the delay, but I'll take the 10 speed over the old slush box any day.

 

[MikeJones603]

Its not on start up, perform a 3 point turn quickly, you can't, you have to completely stop and wait for engagement.

my truck is the same, it sucks. my 17 2.7tt 6 spd did not have this issue.

 

[jdobbstl86]

Why does everyone pay above MSRP or invoice? Mine is loaded and I paid $76k

 

[jabroni619]

I never said that, my complaint was top end speed not off road abilities.

Riiight, that’s exactly what I responded to. You buying an off road truck expecting it to be a triple digit speed demon. That’s like buying a sports car and complaining about lack of ground clearance.

 

[jaz13]

If you are not feeling it, then you never will. As you already said, this is a lot of money to not be thrilled with it. I love my Raptor, but I also know it isn't the right vehicle for most people.

 

[ttsurgeon]

Mine has none of those issues, runs great on snd off road. My BnO sounds great. I’d take it to the dealer before you do anything else and make sure it’s not in limp mode or something. If there’s nothing wrong that the dealer can find then pump it.

 

[MDJAK]

200-300 vehicles? Sounds a bit like Wilt the Stilt Chamberlain who bragged about banging 10,000 women. I remember Howard Stern ringing a bell for months, like every ten minutes, counting down Wilt’s conquests.

 

[Osteoblast]

Use Spotify and tweak equalizer....brings bass out of nowhere, sounds MUCH better than radio/factory tone settings.