Mid/Top Perch-Couldn't you just cut a coil?

[LekRap]

Hey,

So I am one of those guys that went to mid perch and like many aspects BUT miss the smooth, cushy, "Cadillac like" on-road feel of the stock bottom perch. I would love to have the best of both worlds...

As I'm thinking about possible solutions to the whole perch debate, it struck me...what if you set the stock shocks to mid perch but CUT A COIL??? The problem in street driving that I encounter on mid perch is that "pogo stick" feeling...like the coil spring is compressed and trying to break free. If you were to just cut one coil, wouldn't that relieve some of that pressure?

Some would say, "wouldn't cutting a coil just lower the height back down?" The way I see it, the pin/bracket that holds the spring at whichever perch you are at keeps the truck at that predetermined height...right? Maybe the top connection from the coil to the shock would compress and that would lower the overall height?

I realize that this is probably too simple of a solution and if it were to true, people would have already thought of it and done it. Just kinda wandering if I was on to anything?

BIG DISCLAIMER: I am no expert at all, just a guy brainstorming. The big reason I am doing this post is to see what guys who are smarter and more experienced have to say on it. Please let me know if you think I'm on to something or am I missing something???

 

[Soldier64]

I like your enthusiasm and I applaud your idea. Hopefully you get someone here with suspension knowledge to answer.

 

[LekRap]

Thanks...Im afraid that I might have answered my own question though...

Im pretty sure that when you would cut a coil, the shock would compress to the length of the spring, therefor basically negating the point.

I hope that I am wrong..but I think thats the logical thing. I was about to just delete this thread and save myself the embarrassment, but screw it, lets see what people have to say. Again...I do not claim to be an expert in any way

 

[Deleted member 12951]

I say go ahead and cut it and let us know how it works out. You will either be a hero or the idiot.

 

[Bulletnjm]

Well now someone has to try it

 

[LekRap]

I actually already ordered the progressive springs that I think its Gieser Bros are making...theres a thread on that. This is just an after thought. I guess I could try it if I have other springs. Hopefully i like the progressive ones though

Pretty sure between the hero and idiot, id be the latter on this one

I honestly don't see this working...more I think about it, doesn't make sense. Just thought Id throw it out there and make sure it wouldn't work. Can someone who knows tell me that it won't work?

 

[NickPic83]

I think it will negate the lift of mid perch...

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[PropDr]

Cutting a coil will lower the truck and stiffen the spring.

 

[LekRap]

Yeah, its common sense the more I think about it.


And what you said @PropDr actually makes sense and clarifies why the Gieser Bros spring may work. Instead of shortening the stock spring and stiffening the ride...the longer spring lengthens the shock, therefor softening the ride (I believe the spring rate is ever softer, at least on the bottom of the spring).

So basically, the taller you make the coil over (shock and spring combo)...the longer the coil spring should be (for a smooth, stock like ride) and the progressive part of the Gieser Bros coils kicks in so that you still have off road performance

This stuff might be basic for some of you guys (sorry if Im wasting you guys' time), but Im just trying to wrap my mind around it and I would think there are others like me who probably never truly thought this stuff out. Would be awesome if there was a quick, low or no cost solution. i guess I should leave the engineering for the engineers!

 

[Krab]

That's his sig pic. I say no to cutting the coil on the spring, but I'm too lazy to remember my coursework to give an explanation right now while I'm at work. If I'm not mistaken, you change the spring constant (more force needed for same amount of compression) of the spring by cutting a coil off, thus making it stiffer. Albeit, it might be a small amount and not noticeable... Anyways, back to work!