Lug nut broke off???

[PropDr]

Maybe next time you try my method first Mr. Thomas

 

[TheJoker]

Maybe next time you try my method first Mr. Thomas

Next time??? I did try this, that sucker wasn't comming off. Originally, I thought you meant to force an old socket over what was left of the nut. I now know you meant to strike the nut in order to free it up. I tried all this and more. I do appreciate the help though.

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We used heat and a striped nut removal socket, ended up cracking the nut, and still had to use an impact hammer to drive the stud thru the nut and out of the back of the hub. There is very little damage to the wheel. I consider myself lucky and hope others can learn from my experience.

 

[Java]

Thanks for the thread. I do this shit all the time. Nearly every mod I will screw up something. I'm lucky because I have a friend that can fix all my screw ups. He just shakes his head and swears at me. Fortunately he hasn't taken away my key to his shop.

 

[TheJoker]

How difficult is it to replace the stud?

Replacing the stud was a piece of cake. It took all of 15 mins, that's with removing the wheel, caliper, and rotor (I pulled the rotor because I felt that I might damage the treads if I forced the stud in at an angle). With the rotor off the stud slid right in. I used a large nut to tighten the lug nut against, shown in this pic:


I will update the first post with everything I found out.

 

[TheJoker]

I updated the first post.

Here is what I purchased, these are the ones that failed:
Lug Nuts Black Spline Tuner Duplex 14x2 Expedition Navigator 24 | eBay
Buyer Beware!!!

 

[CoronaRaptor]

I think I paid double that for mine.

 

[03svt]

those look close to the gorilla lug nuts. are they just a cheap knock off?

I got mine from SDHQ and I think they are just the gorilla ones, but what worry's me is that they are already rusting. I haven't had them long and don't use an impact gun. I would imagine they get worse and eventually could break like that

 

[Yukon Joe]

So today I brought my truck down to have the wheels balanced and rotated. As soon as they started working on it they snapped a lug nut in half. These are the spined ones which I bought on ebay. The cheapest ones I could find, and now I know why.

I drilled 3 holes in what remains of the nut. I'm not sure why this thing doesn't just fall off. It's really starting to **** me off. I've tried the sockets that they sell to remove striped lug nuts but it's in too deep.

Any thoughts? Help!

EDIT:

Solution:

1. Use a deep wall impact socket to slide over the wheel stud (14mm). Now, use a 5 lb. hammer to strike the socket/lug nut one time, firmly. This should free it up somewhat.

2. Use a stripped nut removal socket to remove the lug nut. You may need to use heat to get the socket to bite into the nut. Do not use air tools (I managed to mangle the lug nut severely with an impact gun).

3. If the last 2 steps didn't work, try to cut the lug nut in half using a small carbide grinding bit. Cutting the nut on opposite sides and using a tiny cold chisel to crack the nut. Be careful, these tend to "jump around", use a firm grip.

4. If all else fails, grab the impact hammer and drive the stud thru the nut and out the back of the hub. be careful, the vacuum line is at 12 O clock and you don't want to damage that.

Wheel stud replacement:

Front: OEM FoMoCo part # W710985-S439 (appr $35)
Dorman part #610-542.1 (appr $15)
Rear: OEM FoMoCo part # YL3Z1107AB (appr $12)
Dorman part # 610-442.1 (appr $12)

Brake caliper assembly bolt torque 184 lb-ft

Always use quality lug nuts and apply anti-seize to the wheel studs.

Looks like you have your "how to" write up for the contest. Hahaha

Yukon Joe

 

[TheJoker]

those look close to the gorilla lug nuts. are they just a cheap knock off?

I got mine from SDHQ and I think they are just the gorilla ones, but what worry's me is that they are already rusting. I haven't had them long and don't use an impact gun. I would imagine they get worse and eventually could break like that

I'm not sure about the splined lug nuts which SDHQ sells. I do know that in the listing it says: "DO NOT use impact wrench to install these lug nuts". Now it's hard to sit and look over a mechanics shoulder while he's working on your vehicle. I did have to replace the splined socket because it was twisted. I'm guessing that the broken nut and the twisted socket are related.

Either way, I'm going back to a simple lug nut.

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Looks like you have your "how to" write up for the contest. Hahaha

Yukon Joe

I was the first one to enter the contest. Now I'm just waiting for my prize.