Is there a Gen 3 rumor mill yet?

[dewalt]

https://www.svtperformance.com/thre...odzilla-7x-v8-engine-plus-a-new-name.1162603/


Here's the motor. Says it's a 4x4

 

[hkguns]

Ford just filed for this Patent V8 with electric front wheel drive . This is the future at least it will sound good.

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For the Mustang.

 

[Truckzor]

The V8 is getting closer to extinction every year.

- There has never been a time in history where more manufacturers are offering a V8
- Ford has publicly stated that they remain committed to V8s in trucks and the mustang
- Ford continues to invest in V8 R&D (5.2 FPC, 5.2 SC, 7.3 OHV, etc.)

So, yeah, I think I am going to go ahead and disagree with you there. If you want to argue that we are all being slowly pushed by regulations away from gasoline engines towards electric ones, then yeah, that I might agree with.

But this wasn't intended to be a debate about engines. I'm more interested to know when the F-150 is getting a full redesign and if/when there will be a Gen 3 Raptor.

 

[EricM]

V8s offer engine smoothness that a 6 or less cylinder engine cannot. You can go to a V12 or V16 for the ultimate, but the sweet point is the V8. As long as there are internal combustion engines, there will be V8s a plenty.

 

[Skyfrog]

https://www.svtperformance.com/thre...odzilla-7x-v8-engine-plus-a-new-name.1162603/
Here's the motor. Says it's a 4x4

"A new seven-litre, V8 truck engine, expected to be called the 7X, should be in production at the Windsor Engine plant's"
Canadians taking American jobs, BUILD THE WALL!!!

 

[Raptorguy1]

- There has never been a time in history where more manufacturers are offering a V8
- Ford has publicly stated that they remain committed to V8s in trucks and the mustang
- Ford continues to invest in V8 R&D (5.2 FPC, 5.2 SC, 7.3 OHV, etc.)

So, yeah, I think I am going to go ahead and disagree with you there. If you want to argue that we are all being slowly pushed by regulations away from gasoline engines towards electric ones, then yeah, that I might agree with.

But this wasn't intended to be a debate about engines. I'm more interested to know when the F-150 is getting a full redesign and if/when there will be a Gen 3 Raptor.

Since you already sent the thread off the rails and also only mentioned Ford engines....

"As Ford prepares to launch the refreshed 2018 F-150 with a thoroughly updated engine lineup, Blue Oval product planners expect 2017’s engine selection to continue. That means the 5.0-liter V8, while mildly upgraded for 2018, will be found under the hood of only one in four 2018 F-150s.

The transition has been a rapid one. Twin-turbocharged EcoBoost V6s were surprisingly effective when, in early 2011, 35 percent of F-150 buyers made the leap from conventional naturally aspirated powerplants. Three years later, when Ford was planning to expand the F-150’s EcoBoost lineup with a less costly 2.7-liter variant, Ford expected 56 percent of F-150 buyers to choose one of the turbocharged units.

Heading into 2018, Ford’s truck marketing manager Todd Eckert tells Automotive News that the 2.7-liter EcoBoost will be the most popular F-150 engine followed by the 3.5-liter EcoBoost. Together, they’ll claim 65 percent of all F-150 sales, leaving 10 percent for the new entry-level 3.3-liter, and roughly 25 percent for the five-point-oh".

 

[Truckzor]

Since you already sent the thread off the rails and also only mentioned Ford engines....

"As Ford prepares to launch the refreshed 2018 F-150 with a thoroughly updated engine lineup, Blue Oval product planners expect 2017’s engine selection to continue. That means the 5.0-liter V8, while mildly upgraded for 2018, will be found under the hood of only one in four 2018 F-150s.

The transition has been a rapid one. Twin-turbocharged EcoBoost V6s were surprisingly effective when, in early 2011, 35 percent of F-150 buyers made the leap from conventional naturally aspirated powerplants. Three years later, when Ford was planning to expand the F-150’s EcoBoost lineup with a less costly 2.7-liter variant, Ford expected 56 percent of F-150 buyers to choose one of the turbocharged units.

Heading into 2018, Ford’s truck marketing manager Todd Eckert tells Automotive News that the 2.7-liter EcoBoost will be the most popular F-150 engine followed by the 3.5-liter EcoBoost. Together, they’ll claim 65 percent of all F-150 sales, leaving 10 percent for the new entry-level 3.3-liter, and roughly 25 percent for the five-point-oh".

Sigh. I think you need to read my post again, guy.

 

[802Avalanche]

- There has never been a time in history where more manufacturers are offering a V8
- Ford has publicly stated that they remain committed to V8s in trucks and the mustang
- Ford continues to invest in V8 R&D (5.2 FPC, 5.2 SC, 7.3 OHV, etc.)

So, yeah, I think I am going to go ahead and disagree with you there. If you want to argue that we are all being slowly pushed by regulations away from gasoline engines towards electric ones, then yeah, that I might agree with.

But this wasn't intended to be a debate about engines. I'm more interested to know when the F-150 is getting a full redesign and if/when there will be a Gen 3 Raptor.

I heard that 2020 F-150 will be an aesthetic refresh, not a full redesign from the frame up. So I wouldn't expect a Gen 3 Raptor until one or two model years after the next full F-150 platform redesign.

 

[Raptorguy1]

Sigh. I think you need to read my post again, guy.

What do you think I missed? I said V8 engines are going away, you answered a different statement about more manufacturers producing V8's. As you can see in the quote from a Ford rep, the take rate for the V8 has dropped by almost half in 3 years. So, the V8 may not be going away yet, but less customers are buying it. It's quite likely if that trend continues, Ford will find it unprofitable to offer it at all, much like they did with cars. What they are committed to today can change further down the road.

 

[HeavyAssault]

Might be legit: Not Gen 3 specific but might correlate to when people will see updated info.

https://www.donlen.com/buildstart-trucks-ford.html