GEN 2 Is the Gen 2 "stable" considering upgrade.

[Maha]

Not true. Car companies will always try to improve on known issues. So your logic is that 17 built reliability will be exactly the same as the 2021 built? really?

I spoke to Ford Performance before placing my 18 order. I ask about the transmission issue that's been reported everywhere. He told me they already sent out a service bulletin to all the dealers on that issue. The fix is already being implemented. Of course the truck is exactly the same as the 17, but they do try to fix and update known issues. He said "engineering" is always on-going. so in theory, the longer you wait, the more reliable it should be.

really stupid logic

Any '17 made after the first few months will have the same issues and build reliability of a '18. They did not change anything meaningful or the way they are produced. I know that goes against what sounds like logic but it doesnt work that way. Sorry

But, if you want to get a '18 becuase of value or the slight changes they made then that makes sense to go that route. At this point, I would probably try to get an '18, but not because it will be any more reliable than a later build '17.

 

[df4801]

So your logic is that 17 built reliability will be exactly the same as the 2021 built?

Not what Im saying at all. Of course by 2021 there will be changes.

Just that there were no engineering changes from late 2017 builds to 2018 builds.

Same parts and same production.

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I spoke to Ford Performance before placing my 18 order. I ask about the transmission issue that's been reported everywhere. He told me they already sent out a service bulletin to all the dealers on that issue. The fix is already being implemented.

Nope.

My '17 was built in march and was just at dealer for oil change.

No bulletins or updates. Never had any tranny issue to begin with.

 

[waddellw]

I never thought about the value of trying to find an 18, leadfoot is the color I like, not enough to wait a full year but a few months maybe.

I might try to hit that landmark 100k before trade in... So at least 3 weeks hahah

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[Maha]

I order my 18 because what Ford Performance told me..

 

[jaz13]

Thanks for the input guys, I know a fair amount of you are very happy with how everything turned out but I don't have great luck and my dealer doesn't want my business they expect it so as you could imagine I'd rather not have to go through that ordeal unless necessary. They kept my current one 2 seperate times for 3 months each and didn't even touch it when I told them there was a transmission issue under warranty. Oh yeah and it's my daily, my only daily lol.


I am not trying to feed the haters either I love the 2.

I'm really just noting a somewhat consistent fact between auto makers is that the first year of any new style usually has some level of bugs.

It'd be the difference in getting one in a week or getting an 18 when they roll around!

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The easy to identify and cheap to fix nuisances have already been addressed with minor tweaks like changing how the oil pan is installed. But it will be years before major problems will be identified, admitted to, and fixed. BMW had rod bearings failing on their V8s at 30k miles and it took them 4 years to change the design. Those problems definitely won't be addressed in an '18 because Ford doesn't even know about them yet. And then there will be a year or two of denial. Followed by a year of design, testing, and implementation. If there is a fatal flaw in the '17, it is also present in the '18 and will still be there in '19.

 

[Maha]

No bulletins or updates.

Maybe you should go to a different dealer?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2017RaptorDiscussion/permalink/1312742152167595/

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The problems reported have a lot to do with quality control (human errors) at the assembly line... radiator clamps installed incorrectly for example.

 

[df4801]

I order my 18 because what Ford Performance told me..

Im telling you that there were NO updates/changes/service bulletins, etc from a March 2017 build to August 2018.

Are you calling my dealer a liar?

 

[Maha]

Im telling you that there were NO updates/changes/service bulletins, etc from a March 2017 build to August 2018.

Are you calling my dealer a liar?

I wouldn't go that far.. just incompetent

 

[df4801]

I wouldn't go that far.. just incompetent

LOL

You must not know the track record of Ford Performance.

 

[Mcnawsty]

Im telling you that there were NO updates/changes/service bulletins, etc from a March 2017 build to August 2018.

Are you calling my dealer a liar?

Are you talking about service updates, mechanical updates, TSBs, and recalls? If not, then you are wrong about changes...the tailgate is different, there is a B&O sound system, and a few others.