I need some help here! Nissan GT-R VS Raptor??!

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KBR

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Apples and oranges my friend, that is all I have to say. If I get a high powered car it is going to be a Shelby GT500. I am staying with SVT!
 

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Disclaimer: I don't know the shapes of the torque curve for either the 6.2L Raptor motor or the GTR dual turbo motor, but I have the feeling that the N/A 6.2L has a much flatter torque curve than the higher peaking GTR does. (area under the torque curve is more important than peak torque when driving needs come at most any RPM.)

For off-road, we are more concerned about torque over nearly the entire RPM range. It would be my guess that the much less expensive 6.2L has a greater area under the torque curve than the much more pricey GTR.


This is absolutely correct!
 

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Apples and oranges.

The 'magic' of the GTR is power and on road AWD handling. The 'magic' of the Raptor is suspension travel and off road handling / ability.

The Raptor engine really isn't any more important than its leather seats. It happens to have the most hp/tq of the F150 lineup, which is more a function of value perception than anything else IMO - bragging rights.

Had the only engine option been the 5.0 people still would have bought it. The guys with 5.4 Raptors love them - case and point. Regardless of the engine, it still would be the most off road capable 1/2 ton pickup available.

Were I swapping in another engine it would be a H/C/I LS7. 680hp/650tq all aluminum goodness.

Agreed! What is silly comparison.

Throw a twin turbo on the 6.2 and then compare the results.....
 

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I know that this has been on here before, (otherwise, how would I know it exists?). Its not the same HP that youre talking about with the GTR, but it seems like a viable option for Ford if they had so inclined to add the option.

SDHQ's Twin-Turbo Eco-Raptor - /TUNED - YouTube

No F/I class in Baja when the Raptor was released.

^^^^^^

Fords torture test with the Eco undoubtedly had an impact on SCOREs rule change. The next version of the Raptor will be lighter and will more than likely have Eco power.
 

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Apples and oranges.

The 'magic' of the GTR is power and on road AWD handling. The 'magic' of the Raptor is suspension travel and off road handling / ability.

The Raptor engine really isn't any more important than its leather seats. It happens to have the most hp/tq of the F150 lineup, which is more a function of value perception than anything else IMO - bragging rights.

Had the only engine option been the 5.0 people still would have bought it. The guys with 5.4 Raptors love them - case and point. Regardless of the engine, it still would be the most off road capable 1/2 ton pickup available.

Were I swapping in another engine it would be a H/C/I LS7. 680hp/650tq all aluminum goodness.


You can't compare engines without looking at their purpose.

Yes, because BOOST means more air which means more fuel.

You can't compare a Raptor and a GT-R. It's apples and oranges. Better yet, let's compare it to guns. You can have a Kimber 1911. Absolutely badass gun. Well built .45 caliber. Big gun, big bullet. Then look at a Sig Sauer P238. Absolutely badass gun. Well built .380 automatic caliber. Small gun, small bullet. Both do the exact same job and both do it very well. But they are built for different purposes. One is for shooting a big caliber, hard and accurate. The other is for easy concealment and being quick to fire. Great guns, totally different purposes.

Yes and yes to both of these.

LOL, good point here! we were just curious about the result here since both of these two cars are considered as performance vehicles, so for the performance perspective, we were trying to find out which one is better with the performance data and fuel consumption

If you're talking "performance" by the definition (per·for·mance noun \pə(r)-ˈfȯr-mən(t)s\ Definition of PERFORMANCE 1a : the execution of an action ) I think they both excel at it. You need to have him define "performance" for you. Fact of the matter is, the Raptor was not designed, nor was it ever intended, to go 0-60 in sub 4 seconds. This was a purpose built off-road truck that was intended to perform extremely well in an off-road environment. Ford put all of their money into the performance of the suspension rather than the engine because, as many have found out here, the truck has more than enough power to out-drive the suspension they already put on the truck stock.

Ask him to take you on a heads up 1/4 mile drag race and make it off-road with a few whoops in there. Your truck with a lower performance engine will kick the shit out of his high horsepower performance engine.
 
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