Houston we have a problem! (the bent frame thread)

[SPRSNK]

Thanks SNK! Where did you mount yours?

I would really like to see a custom housing that fits above the factory Nav that incorporates similar lines of the dash.

Passenger side console. If I have someone brave enough, they can turn the GPS to face them. Otherwise it will be facing me. Where you are talking about I have my race radio installed. Exactly as Ford Raptor 15 Image 6. (second set of photo's)

 

[Raptizzle]

Passenger side console. If I have someone brave enough, they can turn the GPS to face them. Otherwise it will be facing me. Where you are talking about I have my race radio installed. Exactly as Ford Raptor 15 Image 6. (second set of photo's)

Got it. I'm planning to mount the race radio in the center console to free up that space for the GPS. Although, where you have yours is a perfect slot for the radio...

 

[SOCOMech]

Looks like SDHQ has weighed in on the subject at hand......their stance seems to be that it's caused by abuse.

Posted by SDHQ.....
"There have been quite a few questions in this 40+ page thread about our products.. Here is some info that will hopefully answer them for you.

We have been questioned a few times for not reporting the frame damage to the Raptor community when we first became aware of the damaged frames. I felt like there was no reason to "blow the whistle" on the damage that was done to these trucks that came through our shop. These trucks were driven to the extreme and the owners understood that it was their abuse that caused the damage. We see trucks in our shop weekly that have factory components that are compromised, normally due to abuse, as a shop we repair these flaws and build them better... That's just what we do. These “pre-run” bent frame trucks were bent at the upper bump stop mount and all the trucks were involved in very heavy off road abuse. The worst had about a 3"-4" difference between the front of the bed and the rear of the bed. None of our customers took their truck into Ford to attempt to have them covered under warranty. In these cases they understood it was user abuse and they were willing to pay for the repairs themselves. When they left they had straight frames and our rear hydraulic bumps installed."


Doesn't matter though, most of the guys on the Z will still think it's Ford's fault.

 

[AZ SVT]

A lot of you guys with extreme off-road experience are suspecting that over-heated shocks are contributing to bottoming out. That make good sense to me. That being the case, I am looking in to rigging up a thermometer that will show shock temp displayed in the cab. This will possibly give the "early warning" many say is lacking before the shocks quit on you. I have found several remote thermometers, but I don't know what the operational range needs to be. Anyone know how hot is too hot for the stock Foxxes?

Thanks!

 

[gotSVT]

Good idea. I have a wireless temp sensor that I can run next time out. I really didn't notice much shock fade. Not to say they weren't about to melt but I didn't notice anything from inside the truck. My days usually consist of a lot of stopping and "cool off" time though. IMO, no amount of shock is going to fix a weak bump stop setup like Outlaws fix will. I never thought I'd be data logging my shocks!

Does anybody know how hot is too hot? I can set a warning alarm on the display of the sensor.

 

[AZ SVT]

Good idea. I have a wireless temp sensor that I can run next time out. I really didn't notice much shock fade. Not to say they weren't about to melt but I didn't notice anything from inside the truck. My days usually consist of a lot of stopping and "cool off" time though. IMO, no amount of shock is going to fix a weak bump stop setup like Outlaws fix will. I never thought I'd be data logging my shocks!

Does anybody know how hot is too hot? I can set a warning alarm on the display of the sensor.

I too have not done any long-duration high speed runs, but that's only because I haven't had the time yet. I think up grading the bump-stops is a great idea too, but, they should be the last line of defense and not relied on to compensate for too fast for too long. I have a feeling shock-fade is very gradual and will go completely unnoticed until it's too late. What thermometer are you thinking of using?

I'm NOT from the "It's Fords Fault" camp, but you have to wonder what the duty cycle was during their fabled "1000 mile durability test." That information could give us a lot of in-sight about where the limit really is. Shock-temp is the only direct feedback I can think of that can tell us what's really going on with the suspension.

 

[DubbsFaris]

This guy is a stalker! He's been following me around for years now! I blame his choice in slow cars for that though

Hi Warren!

Hey Rick, how's the truck? Stalker? I just let you go out in front so I can stop and help you with break downs...

You're getting one too? This is Corey aka 10random

I've also been getting the non-stop "but didn't you hear about the bent frame problem?" Too which I reply NooooOOOo, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Of course! Im holding out until 12 though...you going to the dragstrip tonight?

 

[Spider-One]

Why hasn't anyone set up a piggy back or remote reservoir add-on kit for the stock shocks to provide more cooling/fluid capacity? I see these kits all over the place for sleds and quads. I'm no shock expert so there's a good chance I'm missing something, just curious though.

 

[Outlaw Offroad]

Good idea. I have a wireless temp sensor that I can run next time out. I really didn't notice much shock fade. Not to say they weren't about to melt but I didn't notice anything from inside the truck. My days usually consist of a lot of stopping and "cool off" time though. IMO, no amount of shock is going to fix a weak bump stop setup like Outlaws fix will. I never thought I'd be data logging my shocks!

Does anybody know how hot is too hot? I can set a warning alarm on the display of the sensor.

Most shocks are run at 150 psi and the shock oil will fade at about 350 to 400 degrees. It also depends on how long you run the shock for. The fix is a hydraulic bump stop mounting on the rear of the truck. Or upgrade to a bigger shock....... Just info to chew on......

 

[gotSVT]

Most shocks are run at 150 psi and the shock oil will fade at about 350 to 400 degrees.

That is WAY beyond my datalogger.