Houston we have a problem! (the bent frame thread)

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It doesn't help that General Grabbers are only rated for what, 104mph? Those 110+MPH runs are definitely pushing it!

Bluesvt since your here most of the time, I have a question. Are you still driving your truck? If you are, you shouldn't be. The damage at the bumpstop is not the complete picture. If you look at the photo's and your truck you will notice that if the only damage to the frame was at the bumpstop, the gap between the cab and bed would be the opposite of what it is. This leeds me to beleieve there is damage in the rear section of the modular frame were it's welded to the center section. It almosts has to be for the gap to be larger at the top, than the bottom.
 
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That's good news! Lessons learned the hard way.

You can't watch a GPS or use a radio when driveing at these speeds, you have to have a copilot and that person has to know how to read the GPS and operate the radio. So with that said, what good is it? There should be a truck out in front by about 30 minutes, Marking the trail a quarter mile of the before the danger areas, to warn the drivers of an upcoming hazzard. Most of these guys are novice off roaders, and need the extra help.
 
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You can't watch a GPS or use a radio when driveing at these speeds, you have to have a copilot and that person has to know how to read the GPS and operate the radio. So with that said, what good is it? There should be a truck out in front by about 30 minutes, Marking the trail a quarter mile of the before the danger areas, to warn the drivers of an upcoming hazzard. Most of these guys are novice off roaders, and need the extra help.

That's what I was thinking. These guys are paying a good amount of cash to drive in the desert, they should have some kind of obstacle ahead signs along the way. It would only take outlaw pre running the course and setting them up ahead of time, not too much effort, just a little extra time. Maybe a yellow caution sign for things like the big kickers, the cattle guard crossing and some of the other painful stuff they hit really hard. I'm with you though, I'm not sure a novice should be concerned with watching a gps when they should be 100% focused on what's in front of them at the moment.
 

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You can't watch a GPS or use a radio when driveing at these speeds, you have to have a copilot and that person has to know how to read the GPS and operate the radio. So with that said, what good is it? There should be a truck out in front by about 30 minutes, Marking the trail a quarter mile of the before the danger areas, to warn the drivers of an upcoming hazzard. Most of these guys are novice off roaders, and need the extra help.

It is a starting point and seems they are at least putting some thought in it.....how much is debatable. A GPS uploaded with way points/potential rough areas would be helpful. I thought they would be required to have co-pilots, but perhaps not so.....
 

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Good Choice, Hit the nail square on the head!

that's driver error... didn't know how to correct on an off camber turn in an AWD car. ( I had one, so I know how different it is from RWD)

The car was doing what the commercial advertised... without damaging itself (before the driver crashed it). Driver error is another issue from advertising. hence, "professional driver on closed course"

The Raptors with bent frames in question are still in the grey area (exceeding advertised limits, or, driver error exceeding what the truck should do.)
 
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After reading and analyzing everything I could find, on the bent Frame issue, one thing just keeps nagging me. All the crazy stuff you see on YouTube, Raptors jumping, sunk in the mud and so on, why only now has this bent frame issue been noticed or happened! Something in the back of my mind is nagging me! I have seen this somewhere before. After running through dozens of YouTube video I found it, back in September 2009 WebRides TV posted a Raptor review, in the review about the 1:07 mark there is a white Raptor in semi slow motion hitting a kicker hard and only the drivers side rear wheel, is it just my eye’s or when the truck stops bouncing the drivers side of the bed, corner closest to the cab no longer matches the other side and no longer sits lever, looks like the bed is twisted. AKA Bent Frame! It looks like they had the same damage as the Outlaw Raptor run guys did, from the same type of rear impact. Now let’s say I’m right, why wasn’t this reported by the reviewing crew, or was it, but covered up! No way to know for sure, but watch the video a few times, start and stop it on various bounces caused by the kicker and you tell me! This could possibly be the “SMOKING GUN”



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