Houston we have a problem! (the bent frame thread)

[SDHQ GOODGUY]

CHECK THIS OUT, IT IS A INEXPENSIVE PIECE OF INSURANCE

Here is our install instructions Install Instructions for SDHQ Ford Raptor Rear Frame Reinforcement Kit for our reinforcement kit SDHQ Ford Raptor Rear Frame Reinforcement Kit


After seeing the rear frame bend on the Raptor, we came up with an easy bolt on kit that will help eliminate that.

Feature & Benefits -

Helps eliminates the factory weak points in the frame @ the factory rear bump stop
Our kit fully boxes in frame around the factory bump stop mount
Adds vertical support directly above bump stop
Ties the frame and bump stop together
Helps stop the lower frame from getting pushed up which allows frame to fold
No drilling
Uses factory holes
Completely bolt on
Easy 20 minute install
Grade 8 hardware included
Powder coat finish

 

[Bad company]

CHECK THIS OUT, IT IS A INEXPENSIVE PIECE OF INSURANCE

Here is our install instructions Install Instructions for SDHQ Ford Raptor Rear Frame Reinforcement Kit for our reinforcement kit SDHQ Ford Raptor Rear Frame Reinforcement Kit


After seeing the rear frame bend on the Raptor, we came up with an easy bolt on kit that will help eliminate that.

Feature & Benefits -

Helps eliminates the factory weak points in the frame @ the factory rear bump stop
Our kit fully boxes in frame around the factory bump stop mount
Adds vertical support directly above bump stop
Ties the frame and bump stop together
Helps stop the lower frame from getting pushed up which allows frame to fold
No drilling
Uses factory holes
Completely bolt on
Easy 20 minute install
Grade 8 hardware included
Powder coat finish

This looks like a quility product at a reasonable price. In my humble opinion, it would not prevent the failures seen on the Raptor run (forces well in excess of 170,000 pounds for a limited range of displacement), but it would help prevent permanent frame damage in less extreme cases. Nice work.

 

[bstoner59]

They ran out of money "OR" they spent thier budget and didn't have anything left for the rear suspension. So they had to throw it together to get it into production. If you look at what they have done with a stock F-150, a lot of money was spent on the front suspension, shock tuneing, body design and computer programming. They also had a price point to meet! Who knows what the real answer was, but I'll bet I'm close!

Exactly! Ford can't deviate much off the F150 design because of cost reasons. It has to be built on the same line as all the other F150's. As soon as things like frames and mounting points are changed from the standard F150 design costs skyrocket! Ford wasn't limited by anything other than what they could sell the finished product for...which I'm sure they spent tons of cash determining. In the end it's a business...they have to provide a product at a price they can sell it and still make some $$$ and I think they did an excellent job!

 

[relicdog]

recall issue

According to members of SVT, trucks built after tsb and or recall should
have new driveshaft with part # ending in AC or BC if your part # ends
in AB or BB then you have old driveshaft an It should be replaced. My
truck was built 4-7-2011 an it has the old part # I am in contact with
Ford customer service an dealership where I bought the truck trying to
resolve this issue. According to SVT member some trucks may have
gone out by accident with old driveshaft.

 

[RPG]

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I have a bent frame, but don't hold anything against Ford personally. I do feel they could have done a MUCH better job designing the rear suspension. Particularly, you should expect to see "other" components fail LONG before you bend your frame. You should see broken bump stops, broken shock mounts, etc... For the frame to be the weakest link in the equation seems like a poor design TO ME.

Now, knowing I can't take the truck out and cruise off road trails at 50-60MPH without worry of serious frame damage just upsets me. This is afterall "The first high-speed off-road performance truck" that has ever been in mass production. "High Speed" and "Off Road" are supposed to go hand-in-hand...

It just sucks because I love EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of this truck, top to bottom... best vehicle I've ever owned by a long shot! Now, to have this happen when I was NOT abusing the truck, only doing what they claim it's intended purpose is for, I feel let down. I've always been one to buy the best factory model I can, and leave it stock to retain reliability and a warranty! I wouldn't buy a WRX, throw $5000 in engine mods on, then get mad when it doesn't hold up like an STI... no, I buy an STI and leave it stock!

Regardless, it just needs to be addressed or at least mentioned to the owners so they know what the limits of the truck are. By limits, I mean "High-speed Off-road" use, as they claim it's designed for.

I've have seen you say many times" I was not abusing the truck". The problem with that statement to me is, whats your definition of abuse? I know you claim you were using the truck as Ford intended, and exactly like Ford marketed it. But clearly something went drastically wrong on this run. Personally I feel your expectations are way to high with regards to what this truck can handle.

Just today I started from Dale Evans Parkway on the I-15 all the way to the I-40 in the dirt for a short cut to pick up my boat. I saw speeds as high as 80+, slow speeds, whoop sections and large high speed bump like kickers that came up quick. Yet my frame is still like it was the day I drove it off the lot. I've posted videos of me driving in the dirt and I don't ***** foot the truck by any means.

I wish you luck in getting your frame fixed. And I just hope that if and when it gets fixed, you don't feel like you have to crawl over desert because you don't (tons of us have proven this to be true). You just need to use your head and realize what the truck can and cant handle.

On the other hand, if you think you have reached the limits of this truck already, and you might have for all I know. Then its time to start building this truck up, or buy a pre-runner thats already done.

Either way, good luck to you with getting the frame handled...

 

[INI]

^^^^^ what he said to the tenth degree. You stated that high speed and off-road should go hand-in-hand. I beg to differ on a STOCK truck on public roads with speed limits and hazards. You my friend should get the Richard cranium award for the worst keyboard/bench/behind and monitor, offroad driver( I can't believe I even called you that) award of the year. Your posts on this forum and on "others" is EXACTLY why people at Ford Motorsport's and R&D read websites and forums and sugggest there lawsuit attorneys to read it also.

Please sell your blue bonnet trophy truck wannbe and buy a OFFROAD race truck if you want to fly across the desert at 100mph. Heck I'll sell you one of mine for CHEAP

Don't ruin Fords best built truck for the thousands of people that bought them to hall hay around the farm and scrape snow in the winter

End of rant and yes this is my 3 post

I've have seen you say many times" I was not abusing the truck". The problem with that statement to me is, whats your definition of abuse? I know you claim you were using the truck as Ford intended, and exactly like Ford marketed it. But clearly something went drastically wrong on this run. Personally I feel your expectations are way to high with regards to what this truck can handle.

Just today I started from Dale Evans Parkway on the I-15 all the way to the I-40 in the dirt for a short cut to pick up my boat. I saw speeds as high as 80+, slow speeds, whoop sections and large high speed bump like kickers that came up quick. Yet my frame is still like it was the day I drove it off the lot. I've posted videos of me driving in the dirt and I don't ***** foot the truck by any means.

I wish you luck in getting your frame fixed. And I just hope that if and when it gets fixed, you don't feel like you have to crawl over desert because you don't (tons of us have proven this to be true). You just need to use your head and realize what the truck can and cant handle.

On the other hand, if you think you have reached the limits of this truck already, and you might have for all I know. Then its time to start building this truck up, or buy a pre-runner thats already done.

Either way, good luck to you with getting the frame handled...

 

[INI]

Well said. Approved post

The Raptor program is a huge success and does things other production trucks only wish they could do. People pushing the truck past it's limit is a fail.

 

[BlueSVT]

You stated that high speed and off-road should go hand-in-hand. I beg to differ on a STOCK truck

Actually... Ford did.

"The F-150 SVT Raptor is the first-ever high-speed off-road performance truck offered by any manufacturer and highlights 33 years of Ford truck sales leadership by emphasizing F-150’s Built Ford Tough durability, innovation and engineering. Developed with the DNA of an off-road pre-runner, comprehensive modifications focused on chassis and suspension enhancements."

2011 FORD F-150 SVT RAPTOR ADDS SUPERCREW OPTION, MORE TECHNOLOGY, TOWING, STANDARD 6.2-LITER ENGINE | Ford Motor Company Newsroom

 

[BlueSVT]

I've have seen you say many times" I was not abusing the truck". The problem with that statement to me is, whats your definition of abuse?

To me, abuse would be doing stuff the truck was NOT intended or designed to do. This truck WAS in fact designed for high speed off-road use, and that is not an opinion, that is fact.

Abuse would also be indicated by cosmetic and mechanical damage... smashed skid plates, bent suspension components, broken bump stops, broken tie rods, body damage, etc, etc... I have NONE of that, nor did many others with this same issue.

Other members on this board were in front, and behind me... and I'm sure anybody that was there can vouch for those in the "Back pack (truck 8-11)" when I say that none of us were doing anything that would be considered "abuse" for this vehicle.

Just today I started from Dale Evans Parkway on the I-15 all the way to the I-40 in the dirt for a short cut to pick up my boat. I saw speeds as high as 80+, slow speeds, whoop sections and large high speed bump like kickers that came up quick. Yet my frame is still like it was the day I drove it off the lot. I've posted videos of me driving in the dirt and I don't ***** foot the truck by any means.

I know exactly what you mean. I also have done many trips like this with the Raptor! This wasn't the trucks first trip off road by ANY means. I did countless others with similar speeds, whoops, etc... and as you said, mine was also perfectly fine. As another member on here suggested, it does seem like possibly the temperature of the shocks after 4-5 hours of this type of terrain is causing them to dampen much less effectively.

At this point, it's just a matter of getting it fixed... whether its warranty or out of pocket, I just want it done. Still waiting to hear the final results of the engineers findings, should be today.

The goal here is that everybody else can learn from our experience, and hopefully at the very least do the proper re-inforcement before doing any "High speed Off-road" runs for any extended duration of time.

 

[Bad company]

To me, abuse would be doing stuff the truck was NOT intended or designed to do. This truck WAS in fact designed for high speed off-road use, and that is not an opinion, that is fact.

Abuse would also be indicated by cosmetic and mechanical damage... smashed skid plates, bent suspension components, broken bump stops, broken tie rods, body damage, etc, etc... I have NONE of that, nor did many others with this same issue.

Other members on this board were in front, and behind me... and I'm sure anybody that was there can vouch for those in the "Back pack (truck 8-11)" when I say that none of us were doing anything that would be considered "abuse" for this vehicle.



I know exactly what you mean. I also have done many trips like this with the Raptor! This wasn't the trucks first trip off road by ANY means. I did countless others with similar speeds, whoops, etc... and as you said, mine was also perfectly fine. As another member on here suggested, it does seem like possibly the temperature of the shocks after 4-5 hours of this type of terrain is causing them to dampen much less effectively.

At this point, it's just a matter of getting it fixed... whether its warranty or out of pocket, I just want it done. Still waiting to hear the final results of the engineers findings, should be today.

The goal here is that everybody else can learn from our experience, and hopefully at the very least do the proper re-inforcement before doing any "High speed Off-road" runs for any extended duration of time.

BlueSTI, the truck was designed for high-speed off road use. It was not designed to hit bumps larger than the suspension could handle at 60MPH. You did do something is was NOT designed to do. Abuse IS indicated by mechanical damage, you are losing an argument with yourself. In this case, your frame was, uh, damaged.

This case has nothing to do with the shock's ability to dampen. The bump was too big for your speed.

I understand that you have a personal investment in the outcome, and Ford may fix your truck for you. However, stop saying that it should handle anything you do to it, regardless of the physics involved.

Reinforcement WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO HIT 18" KICKERS AT 60MPH. Let it go. You need the suspension travel, or slow down. The truck's momemtum and the velocities involved create reaction forces that WILL DESTROY just about anything until the demands for travel are satisfied.