Guys with icons ?

[Wilson]

I think King is sticking with TT

 

[wanderfalk]

The shin guards, the adjustment knobs, and the silent valve seats.
Mainly the shin guards though, that's a huge feature to me since I'm offroad all day, every day.
And I don't feel that the rear end is lacking at all, they are working very well indeed.

So you like the compliance on the off road medium speed hard chop. How do you like the front set up driving over broken up pavement and pot holes? I was selfishly hoping you would retool the icons and review.


However very understandable you have put so much time in already. It probably would not help the resale making it so specialized .

 

[nohel]

I'm curious why more folks aren't running the Kings on Raptors? Perhaps their marketing isn't at par with Fox or Icon?

Kings are on my list for further upgrades for a spring under setup kings are top in offroad IMO.

 

[ntm]

So you like the compliance on the off road medium speed hard chop. How do you like the front set up driving over broken up pavement and pot holes? I was selfishly hoping you would retool the icons and review.


However very understandable you have put so much time in already. It probably would not help the resale making it so specialized .

I like the fox's compliance on smaller stuff, washboard, expansion joints, that kind of stuff.
Anything it can drop a wheel into like potholes gives the fast droop and "thump".
Kind of sucks, but it's a trade off for a cushier ride on everything else and suction cup like behaviour at high speed offroad.
I spoke to Dylan about revalving and maybe respringing, I was going to do it. But I figured the heck with it, I'll go to new lca's and the 3" external bypass up front. Then I can tune things to my hearts content.

I'm curious why more folks aren't running the Kings on Raptors? Perhaps their marketing isn't at par with Fox or Icon?

I think their external bypasses for the rear certainly are.
But their coilover is a linear damping rate with a compression adjuster that doesn't have a very wide range of effect.
That means you can have a coilover that's tuned for high speed offroad, or one that's tuned for daily ride comfort, but you can't have both...

 

[justvettn]

I'm curious why more folks aren't running the Kings on Raptors? Perhaps their marketing isn't at par with Fox or Icon?

Netix has Kings on the front of his Raptor and a few others.

 

[Maxx2893]

I like the fox's compliance on smaller stuff, washboard, expansion joints, that kind of stuff.
Anything it can drop a wheel into like potholes gives the fast droop and "thump".
Kind of sucks, but it's a trade off for a cushier ride on everything else and suction cup like behaviour at high speed offroad.
I spoke to Dylan about revalving and maybe respringing, I was going to do it. But I figured the heck with it, I'll go to new lca's and the 3" external bypass up front. Then I can tune things to my hearts content.




I think their external bypasses for the rear certainly are.
But their coilover is a linear damping rate with a compression adjuster that doesn't have a very wide range of effect.
That means you can have a coilover that's tuned for high speed offroad, or one that's tuned for daily ride comfort, but you can't have both...

They're not position sensitive, but the are speed sensitive.

 

[SwampKing]

So if you would say get out the truck to tune kings when u know will be on-road AND then again off-road, would u THEN have the best shocks for both driving scenario's? Granted after time you'll memorize the settings/turns and its nothing more then an added procedure while airing up??

Kings just remind me of tires, don't most air down/up anyways for best performance?!

I understand what Fox and Icon are designed around, the luxury to have a multi-use performing shock that NVM is looking for which is why he didnt include Kings in the thread. You guys have me asking questions about kings that would be great to know though.

Method NV/37's
Boatec front and Rear fenders
Rigid dually's in fogs
FOR NOW!

 

[Macman]

^ Its my impression that the shock would have to be taken apart and re-valved for either, so it can only be good at one thing. Also his screen name is ntm not NVM

 

[Jordan@Apollo-Optics]

That was my impression about King's as well, Macman.

Most are going with Fox and ICON because they are great at on-road and off-road capabilities. For the majority of us, the Fox and ICON's are more than enough to handle what we will throw at the truck off-road. What brand you go with all boils down to personal preference and how the shocks you choose handle the given terrain you are in normally. For those that want more, they know the limitations of the 3.0's and modify accordingly with caged back halves, long travel front suspension, etc...

 

[ntm]

So if you would say get out the truck to tune kings when u know will be on-road AND then again off-road, would u THEN have the best shocks for both driving scenario's?

No, the compression adjusters actually don't change the compression that much.
See big j's shock dyno thread for more info.
The icons have more potential for doing this, but are currently valved too stiffly to use their compression adjusters this way. Their softest setting is suitable for high speed offroad in big stuff. The nine more stiffer settings would probably only be used by guys going for trophy truck jumps at the dunes...
I found the softest setting still far too stiff for daily driving in the dirt. Fine on the highway, but not in the dirt.

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They're not position sensitive, but the are speed sensitive.

That's a marketing line, technically all modern shock absorbers are speed sensitive...