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cmarko

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I'm a salesman for a dealership.

I see. where at? is there anyway I can get my reps contact info?

I need to find a new dealer. have bought trucks here for years, decades but every time a new product comes out I have to educate the dealer about the product and process. They have zero info for me on new products. I'm frustrated with the lack of support and really questioning why my dealer cannot get an order pulled. I have a DORA from July and still no schedule.

add to it that I found out allocation number one was used by a salesman in the store after I had to tell them when the order banks were open.
 

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I see. where at? is there anyway I can get my reps contact info?

I need to find a new dealer. have bought trucks here for years, decades but every time a new product comes out I have to educate the dealer about the product and process. They have zero info for me on new products. I'm frustrated with the lack of support and really questioning why my dealer cannot get an order pulled. I have a DORA from July and still no schedule.

add to it that I found out allocation number one was used by a salesman in the store after I had to tell them when the order banks were open.

Hahaha, sounds like mine. They didn't know how to pull up a window sticker. I'm sticking with them though because they always sell either at or a little below MSRP. That's a big deal in Alaska.
 

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Hahaha, sounds like mine. They didn't know how to pull up a window sticker. I'm sticking with them though because they always sell either at or a little below MSRP. That's a big deal in Alaska.

I have the benefit that I run a construction company and buy a lot of trucks so its fairly easy for me to establish a relationship for multiple purchases based on invoice pricing. I need to order another F150 work truck currently but am waiting in case I need to go Raptor shopping elsewhere and sweeten the deal with a 2 for to try to find a deal on a raptor somewhere.

My biggest question is how to pick a new dealer that has enough pull with Ford to get orders pulled and filled. This lottery for new trucks has me baffled. The guys getting orders from November and December already filled are the guys I want to be working with but need to find s dealer with that kind of pull in my area.

I would really like to visit with a rep to try to understand who has the pull in our area and why Menholt doesn't.
 

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I have the benefit that I run a construction company and buy a lot of trucks so its fairly easy for me to establish a relationship for multiple purchases based on invoice pricing. I need to order another F150 work truck currently but am waiting in case I need to go Raptor shopping elsewhere and sweeten the deal with a 2 for to try to find a deal on a raptor somewhere.

My biggest question is how to pick a new dealer that has enough pull with Ford to get orders pulled and filled. This lottery for new trucks has me baffled. The guys getting orders from November and December already filled are the guys I want to be working with but need to find s dealer with that kind of pull in my area.

I would really like to visit with a rep to try to understand who has the pull in our area and why Menholt doesn't.

The Ford regional sales reps usually won't meet with the customer. Sales end is different than the service end in that aspect. The best thing you can do to try and find a good dealer is ask around with other companies you deal with that buy a decent amount of vehicles. Find out where and how satisfied they are. Then call and see what their allocation situation is. Right now your best chance of finding a Raptor deal is either by searching this forum for threads where people posted about Raptors available at good deals or just calling a bunch of dealers.


There is no easy way to determine how a dealers Raptor allocation gets pulled. But Ford is usually pretty fair about how they divvy out that allocation. Meaning say 1/4 of the way through a build year each dealer has 1/4 of their total number scheduled, 1/2 way through 1/2 scheduled and so on. That isn't precise but usually fairly close. The very large dealers with big allocation do tend to get some preferential treatment at times but not excessively.

Our 17' allocation is spoken for and I have a list of a few people interested in an 18'. If you don't find one and are willing to wait I wouldn't have anything available until 18'. PM me and I could put you on the list.

Here is the problem when you go to a dealership about a new product and they don't really know much or anything about it. This is just a job for most sales people. If it's not a product they get excited about they don't spend any extra time researching it. With that said the dealer is the last to get info on new product releases so if you don't have a salesman that's excited or interested in the product you're pretty much going to end helping teach them.

Being in and around performance stuff my entire life I dig for any info I can get well before Ford gives us any info. In turn I sell probably 90 % of all of our specialty and performance allocation we get.

I work for a dealership in Pa.
 

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The Ford regional sales reps usually won't meet with the customer. Sales end is different than the service end in that aspect. The best thing you can do to try and find a good dealer is ask around with other companies you deal with that buy a decent amount of vehicles. Find out where and how satisfied they are. Then call and see what their allocation situation is. Right now your best chance of finding a Raptor deal is either by searching this forum for threads where people posted about Raptors available at good deals or just calling a bunch of dealers.


There is no easy way to determine how a dealers Raptor allocation gets pulled. But Ford is usually pretty fair about how they divvy out that allocation. Meaning say 1/4 of the way through a build year each dealer has 1/4 of their total number scheduled, 1/2 way through 1/2 scheduled and so on. That isn't precise but usually fairly close. The very large dealers with big allocation do tend to get some preferential treatment at times but not excessively.

Our 17' allocation is spoken for and I have a list of a few people interested in an 18'. If you don't find one and are willing to wait I wouldn't have anything available until 18'. PM me and I could put you on the list.

Here is the problem when you go to a dealership about a new product and they don't really know much or anything about it. This is just a job for most sales people. If it's not a product they get excited about they don't spend any extra time researching it. With that said the dealer is the last to get info on new product releases so if you don't have a salesman that's excited or interested in the product you're pretty much going to end helping teach them.

Being in and around performance stuff my entire life I dig for any info I can get well before Ford gives us any info. In turn I sell probably 90 % of all of our specialty and performance allocation we get.

I work for a dealership in Pa.


Where in PA?
 

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So the dealer says since I contacted Ford, they can't get updates the regular way. They said they requested an update and got one today saying awaiting shipment, but Ford service says no updates since they told me it was at the retrofitter. Which one is it?
 

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The Ford regional sales reps usually won't meet with the customer. Sales end is different than the service end in that aspect. The best thing you can do to try and find a good dealer is ask around with other companies you deal with that buy a decent amount of vehicles. Find out where and how satisfied they are. Then call and see what their allocation situation is. Right now your best chance of finding a Raptor deal is either by searching this forum for threads where people posted about Raptors available at good deals or just calling a bunch of dealers.


There is no easy way to determine how a dealers Raptor allocation gets pulled. But Ford is usually pretty fair about how they divvy out that allocation. Meaning say 1/4 of the way through a build year each dealer has 1/4 of their total number scheduled, 1/2 way through 1/2 scheduled and so on. That isn't precise but usually fairly close. The very large dealers with big allocation do tend to get some preferential treatment at times but not excessively.

Our 17' allocation is spoken for and I have a list of a few people interested in an 18'. If you don't find one and are willing to wait I wouldn't have anything available until 18'. PM me and I could put you on the list.

Here is the problem when you go to a dealership about a new product and they don't really know much or anything about it. This is just a job for most sales people. If it's not a product they get excited about they don't spend any extra time researching it. With that said the dealer is the last to get info on new product releases so if you don't have a salesman that's excited or interested in the product you're pretty much going to end helping teach them.

Being in and around performance stuff my entire life I dig for any info I can get well before Ford gives us any info. In turn I sell probably 90 % of all of our specialty and performance allocation we get.

I work for a dealership in Pa.

Thanks for the response and info. I agree entirely on your comment about it being just a job to some people and as a result they look for the easiest path. I just cannot wrap my head around someone having a job and not doing all of the digging to know the scoop and sell the product instead of waiting for info to arrive on a platter. I have educated this dealer on new products dating back to my diesel excursion over a decade ago and am completely frustrated with it.

Beyond that I am completely frustrated with Ford not fulfilling orders as they are received. I need to get with a good volume dealer which is a challenge in Montana. I have heard that Bozeman Ford, the largest dealer in the area, sold many of its allocations to highest bidder, not the kind of people I want to work with. Menholt is either too lazy or inept to provide the details I need. The search is on. Wish you were closer. Thanks again for the info.
 

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dealer being greedy now

Placed my order in October at MSRP. Got a call from dealer now they want to charge 10k more because of market adjustment. Such dishonesty after marking me wait like 2 months on this.

Anyone can point me to any dealer in TX or OK?
 

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Placed my order in October at MSRP. Got a call from dealer now they want to charge 10k more because of market adjustment. Such dishonesty after marking me wait like 2 months on this.

Anyone can point me to any dealer in TX or OK?

Do you have a bill of sale from the dealership that is signed by the dealer with pricing?
 
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