GEN3 Buyback case has been opened.

[MKW1456]

I’m close to opening a buyback case on my 2023. I love the truck overall but have been without it for 8wk since I got it late Dec. Multiple issues are still not fixed despite several attempts. Waiting on a new attempt at parts so I have the truck for a few weeks while they come in.

It’s got an exhaust rattle at idle while in drive that won’t go away unless you give it throttle to 700rpm or so. Shakes enough to where it wakes the baby up and you can hear it from inside the house. One of the exhaust sections was bent but that didn’t fix, then they tried some weighted mount. I think it has something to do with the idle speed but that doesn’t explain the metal on metal rattle from around the transfer case.

The sunroof has leaked and already come off track twice. Broken a set of tracks as well, sunroof is currently unlevel and leaking in heavy rains. Also doesn’t have a wind deflector and the cover is loose/shakes if any windows or sunroof is open.

Passenger side view mirror intermittently loses power to lights and sensors. They’ve changed wire harnesses and reprogrammed and I think they are changing out the entire door harness next?

Brave of you to post here. All these Raptor enthusiasts will rip into you because it must be your fault in some obscure way that your truck is a POS.

I mean, seriously, there is a topic with hundreds of pages regarding “what did you do to your raptor today”. Hope these posters realize they are doomed if anything unrelated goes wrong with their truck. I’d feel the same way if I was the OP. The constant defense of a car manufacturer who has a bad product/lemon is nauseating.

 

[FordTechOne]

My factory fog wires are not plugged into anything 2 months now, should I be seeing some kind of fault because all seems normal on the dash, even when i hit the switch, dash icon lights up but no lights or errors. I want to use that circuit for some S1 ambers plugged in with adapters to avoid any splicing in the near future but until then should I be pulling the fuse or something?
Thanks

No, because there is no indication or warning message for that fault. The BCM will have DTCs for both fog lamp circuits being open. There is no fuse, the lamps are powered by Field Effect Transistors (FETs) in the BCM. The transistors measure current draw, so unless the aftermarket lights you’re installing are identical in load to the factory fogs, it will set over current DTCs. Use the upfitter switches if you’re going to add aftermarket lighting.

 

[ToadSmasher2K1]

Can you disable the fogs in Forscan to address this?

 

[FordTechOne]

Brave of you to post here. All these Raptor enthusiasts will rip into you because it must be your fault in some obscure way that your truck is a POS.

No, it’s called taking accountability for your actions. Apparently a concept you don’t understand either.

I mean, seriously, there is a topic with hundreds of pages regarding “what did you do to your raptor today”. Hope these posters realize they are doomed if anything unrelated goes wrong with their truck. I’d feel the same way if I was the OP. The constant defense of a car manufacturer who has a bad product/lemon is nauseating.

You mod your truck and cause problems that’s on you. It’s “nauseating” to read posts like yours that assume everything you screw up with modifications and aftermarket parts is a warranty issue, and then call the truck a “POS bad product”. OP has made multiple modifications, including relocating a critical safety system without even attempting to have it recalibrated. But people like yourself who don’t have the slightest clue how any of these systems work are the first to blame the truck and not the hacked up owner mods when something goes wrong.

 

[MKW1456]

Can you disable the fogs in Forscan to address this?

Forscan? That’s an automatic disqualification when looking to get warranty work done. Run, run as fast as you can away from forscan. The forensic ECU PCM BCM etc specialists will have you busted. I’ve heard forscan has been linked to the dreaded exhaust rattled and shock clunk among other things

 

[ToadSmasher2K1]

Forscan? That’s an automatic disqualification when looking to get warranty work done. Run, run as fast as you can away from forscan. The forensic ECU PCM BCM etc specialists will have you busted. I’ve heard forscan has been linked to the dreaded exhaust rattled and shock clunk among other things

Forensic ECU PCM BCM specialist? Does Ford send these items off to the FBI for analysis?

 

[FordTechOne]

Forscan? That’s an automatic disqualification when looking to get warranty work done. Run, run as fast as you can away from forscan. The forensic ECU PCM BCM etc specialists will have you busted. I’ve heard forscan has been linked to the dreaded exhaust rattled and shock clunk among other things

Modifying internal module configurations can result in a multitude of glitches and system failures, as many users on here have experienced. Network communication issues, inoperative/incorrect lighting, battery drains, the list goes on. But once again you know absolutely nothing, so you assume your mods are the manufacturer’s fault. You need to just stop, you’re making a fool of yourself.

 

[FordTechOne]

Forensic ECU PCM BCM specialist? Does Ford send these items off to the FBI for analysis?

Most people don’t have an issue if it’s a “documented” configuration change that has been well tested and doesn’t cause side effects or DTCs. But if you bring it in for a concern related to a module that has been modified, it will come back in the system that the configuration is not factory. I haven’t heard of anyone on here having that issue, but most people understand that should an issue occur, they would need to return it to stock and re-evaluate before going any further.

 

[ToadSmasher2K1]

Most people don’t have an issue if it’s a “documented” configuration change that has been well tested and doesn’t cause side effects or DTCs. But if you bring it in for a concern related to a module that has been modified, it will come back in the system that the data has been modified. I haven’t heard of anyone on here having that issue, but most people understand that should an issue occur, they would need to return it to stock and re-evaluate before going any further.

I have no doubt it's discoverable and potentially warranty-voiding, but I would find it hard to believe it rises to the level of forensic specialists.

Forscan in general seems shady at it's core. We are essentially trusting Russian hackers with our truck's electronics?

 

[Luchh224]

Most people don’t have an issue if it’s a “documented” configuration change that has been well tested and doesn’t cause side effects or DTCs. But if you bring it in for a concern related to a module that has been modified, it will come back in the system that the configuration is not factory. I haven’t heard of anyone on here having that issue, but most people understand that should an issue occur, they would need to return it to stock and re-evaluate before going any further.

I am having exactly 0 ACC or safety feature issues. The issues are with the truck shutting down completely or the gauge cluster resetting and blank Screening for no reason. No warnings, no CEL’s, no nothing to indicate that anything I have done (which in my opinion is very minimal, and have been done hundreds of times before) could be the source of the truck being in reverse, shutting down, hard shifting into park, resetting, and then coming back online while the truck is still in gear.