Gen2 Discussion for Gen1 Owners

[Jimbo]

David Byrne?

yup

 

[RLTW]

What the **** is happening


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[Trick.Raptor]

What the **** is happening

'Everything has to be bigger': David Byrne takes us inside his giant Talking Heads-era gray suit

 

[bstoner59]

The one big turn off for me, being in the body business, is the aluminum panels. Unfortunately all makes are heading that way. But with us running these truck recreationally, if the panel gets dented, you have to replace that panel. You cannot repair dented aluminum properly. You cannot bend it back to place like metal. Pack filler and it will crack. Crappy situation in our case. But, I'm sure many of us will splurge on glass fenders and bedsides so those at least we don't have to worry about as much after applied.


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Cut it off and use fiberglass!!! [emoji1591][emoji1591]


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[WyoStorm]

Watched this video a few times now but I think it's a good one on the origin of the Raptor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlWLsmjf1nE

 

[2011SuperCrew]

I'll admit I like the 15-up body style and we have an eco in our expedition, which I am very fond of, but I don't see myself taking a huge financial hit on my Gen 1 only to spend as much or more on the Gen 2 to bring it up to where my Gen 1 currently sits. I'll admit the events of the past year or so weigh heavily on that decision process.

I LOVE the look of the new gen body with the larger than Raptor fenders (like the ADD Baja XT or the Fiberwerx +4). Were I to get back into a spending mode, I would probably lean more towards a conversion vs paying the freight for status - again. At least that way I could get a 5.0.

I do have a question for the peanut gallery. Is anyone familiar with Plasma Transfer Wire Arc cylinder liners? While I can't find specific references to the Gen 2, Ford did say they were moving toward PTWA liners vs steel sleeves to save money and weight. I can only assume that with the new gen CGI block, they also adopted the PTWA liners based on claimed weight savings. We know that the Gen 2 eco can support at least 600hp (given the numbers of the GT) but I wonder what the ceiling is vs the gen 1 with steel sleeves.

Wasn't the GEN 1 a cast iron block? I'm pretty sure it was...

The PTWA liners have been used for a while and I'm sure they are more robust than steel inserts (less chance for distortion, better heat-transfer for aluminum block, harder surface).


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[WarSurfer]

Wasn't the GEN 1 a cast iron block? I'm pretty sure it was...

The PTWA liners have been used for a while and I'm sure they are more robust than steel inserts (less chance for distortion, better heat-transfer for aluminum block, harder surface).


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I meant gen 1 ecoboost, it was aluminum with steel sleeves. May be a moot point, GT500's had PTWA liners in their last iteration we all know they were monsters. I didn't realize that was the case.

 

[WyoStorm]

After seeing more pics from the Chicago auto show, the gen2 just doesn't do anything for me. I think if it was just a regular f150, I'd probably say that's not a bad looking truck but for a followup to our Raptor, it's a big let down. Looks like new Bronco or second gen1!!

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[Trick.Raptor]

After see more pics from the Chicago auto show, the gen2 just doesn't do anything for me. I think if it was just a regular f150, I'd probably say that's not a bad looking truck but for a followup to our Raptor, it's a big let down. Looks like new Bronco or second gen1!!

Yeah the pictures Chris posted looks like a regular F150 with black wheels. The new Raptor is much softer and more watered down in looks that is for sure.

 

[Wilson]