Gen 4 500hp dark horse V8

[downforce137]

In Baja mode it does exactly what you’re describing and is responsive.

i was in baja mode...

 

[smurfslayer]

I got murdered on this forum for saying this

That’s true. A bunch of us Jen Too felt bad about it though.



We reanimated him.

at higher speeds, its happened a bunch of times where a surprise hole or wash appeared, and id stab the gas to try to unload the front end to get over it and basically nothing happens... the turbos arent doing anything with a quick stab of the throttle..

the V8 truck has instant torque and throttle response.. the ecoboost has turbo lag, even if its fractions of seconds, its there..

Were you in an off road mode? I’ve never had something like this happen at speed. If turtling along at beach speeds, yes, but I need to be under 2k rpms to do it.
Even Mud/Sand, Sport -Definitely NOT normal mode. I don’t get many opportunities to uncork the truck in Baja, but in M/S throttle transitions at speed are excellent. The shift points are higher in m/s for me - definitely higher than sport which requires about 2k rpms to upshift, minimum.

Now you got me curious.

 

[downforce137]

Were you in an off road mode? I’ve never had something like this happen at speed. If turtling along at beach speeds, yes, but I need to be under 2k rpms to do it.
Even Mud/Sand, Sport -Definitely NOT normal mode. I don’t get many opportunities to uncork the truck in Baja, but in M/S throttle transitions at speed are excellent. The shift points are higher in m/s for me - definitely higher than sport which requires about 2k rpms to upshift, minimum.

Now you got me curious.

baja mode, 2wd, long press TC

this was on a power line road in the nevada desert.. these holes were way better at speed if i loaded up the deavers and 3.5s out back and kinda carried the front over..

at first it almost was as if a nanny kicked in, but if i was already on accel it wasnt there, so i attributed it to turbo lag..

going from brakes, even barely touching them, back to gas quickly, happened every time... like there was no throttle pedal for a split second when i felt i really needed some response..

 

[smurfslayer]

Heat soak?
That would definitely cause a mushy throttle and that will definitely involve turbo lag as well.

 

[downforce137]

Heat soak?
That would definitely cause a mushy throttle and that will definitely involve turbo lag as well.

i have a big intercooler and we had been driving for hours.. it was pretty warm, but im still going with lack of instant throttle response from 0% throttle to maybe 1/2 throttle..

 

[FordTechOne]

lol, all of them dont need updated cam phasers? im irrelevant.. sorry for interjecting.

No. And yes, you’re irrelevant when you don’t even know the basics about the engine(s) you’re making nonsensical claims about.

im starting to think you are in ecoboost marketing. You gonna lose your corporate comfy cubicle and gen2 daily if the V6 fails and they decide to go V8 on all the raptors?

clueless clearly i am...

I’m starting to think you have a room temperature IQ. Look at the history of your posts, you know nothing about these engines, these trucks, or seemingly anything else for that matter. Remember when you said Ford could have “easily” made a SCAB Gen 3 because all the frames are the same? You make a mockery of yourself and then try and gaslight everyone else, you have a pattern of behavior on here.

i never followed V6 f150 engines until they decided to put it in the halo performance off road model, where it really doesn't belong with my limited off road driving experience and caveman mentality. its ok in the dunes, if you can plan ahead..

since you do not know, sometimes when offroad driving, you need instant torque to carry the front suspension over a surprise wash or obstacle and the 3.5L doesn't have it... and hopefully you can at least get off the brakes ... it happens, but V8 grunt is what is needed in those situations..because you are not going to drive a gen2 or any ecoboost truck 2 footed like often needs to be done in off road terrain..

Your lack of knowledge and understanding of engine torque curves really becomes apparent with statements like this. A 5.0 V8 has significantly less torque available on the low end than the EB…therefore it’s not “instant”, it requires multiple downshifts which is on not ideal in these “situations” you continue to rant about. “V8 grunt”

Baja mode keeps the throttle open for near instantaneous torque delivery…so it sounds more like operator error than a deficit in the truck. Which would not be a surprise coming from you, the same guy who said that damaged CV axles due to a lift is the trucks fault

 

[downforce137]

thread successfully derailed...

its pretty unlikely that ford puts the darkhorse V8 in a raptor, but 95% of us can still dream...

 

[downforce137]

No. And yes, you’re irrelevant when you don’t even know the basics about the engine(s) you’re making nonsensical claims about.

I’m starting to think you have a room temperature IQ. Look at the history of your posts, you know nothing about these engines, these trucks, or seemingly anything else for that matter. Remember when you said Ford could have “easily” made a SCAB Gen 3 because all the frames are the same? You make a mockery of yourself and then try and gaslight everyone else, you have a pattern of behavior on here.

Your lack of knowledge and understanding of engine torque curves really becomes apparent with statements like this. A 5.0 V8 has significantly less torque available on the low end than the EB…therefore it’s not “instant”, it requires multiple downshifts which is on not ideal in these “situations” you continue to rant about. “V8 grunt”

Baja mode keeps the throttle open for near instantaneous torque delivery…so it sounds more like operator error than a deficit in the truck. Which would not be a surprise coming from you, the same guy who said that damaged CV axles due to a lift is the trucks fault

cool story bro

 

[FordTechOne]

cool story bro

Way to avoid all the bull$hit you posted.

The fact that you think the Dark Horse V8 would be suited to a Raptor is comical at best. Obviously grasping basic torque curves is well outside of your mental capacity. I’d like to think 95% of the people on here are smart enough understand that, you excluded.

 

[downforce137]

Way to avoid all the bull$hit you posted.

The fact that you think the Dark Horse V8 would be suited to a Raptor is comical at best. Obviously grasping basic torque curves is well outside of your mental capacity. I’d like to think 95% of the people on here are smart enough understand that, you excluded.

Ok bud. I'm not arguing with you so keep on keeping on. I know what the marketing materials say and I know what it actually does in the real world

I said they had the cab, and the bed and all the other pieces and they needed a frame.. so stop twisting what you think I said..