Gen 3 Raptor is Overpriced, you are all Insane

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I agree with various points here and will add my 2 cents. You mentioned that you got “inside” deal at MSRP, remember most of us are not on the inside track. When the Vette hits the dealers, those markups are just as real as the markups on Raptors. Your opening statement about insanity for paying such prices leads to “Beauty and in this case “value” is in the eye of the buyer. Just as the Vette buyer that is willing to pay $50k over, why is it insanity because a Raptor buyer is willing to pay XX $ over? At first I myself was stuck on finding the MSRP deal, but then variables of time, enjoyment, and utility came into the equation. So I will attempt to make an equation out of this:

ADM_F = Dealer markup FACTOR you are WILLING to pay
T = Time to receive vehicle , in your procession.
U = Utility. - How much use will you get out of this other than driving around town or the track.
E. = Fun factor, How much fun will you have driving this vehicle.

Values = 1 thru 5,
T = 1 means you want iit NOW , T = 5, means you can wait.
U = 5. , you get a lot of utility and E = 5 of course lots of Fun

Formula ADM_F = ( U + E ) / T

Example 1 to show extremes U = 5, E = 5, T = 1,
(5+5) / 1 = 10. 10 being highest possible value, therefore you are willing to pay highest markup (that u can afford or in your eyes is reasonable).

Example 2 other extreme (time). U = 5, E = 5, T= 5
(5+5) / 5 = 2. means you can wait it out and not going to pay over MSRP.

Qualifiers: IF U + E is less than 5, don’t bother, you neither find enough fun and/or utility on this vehicle, so it’s not even a consideration. As the formula could result in value less than 1. Who is going to buy something that is 50/50 on their personal ratings list??

For me personally, My score was 3.3, I was willing to pay a markup because i did not want to wait 6 plus months. My score is not 8 or 10 because i was not willing to pay the highest markups to get the car tomorrow. I want it, but not that bad.

So we can remove whole thing about insanity about Raptor markups as these markups will exists for any hot car, any make any time. Even before this whole “chip shortage” supply chain stuff. The hot cars always commanded a premium. In fact one might even apply this equation to hot ……. Another rabbit hole.
 

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Not sure what's worse...the OP's post or this guy. I'm leaning towards this guy. Annoying AF with all the financial scolding and smugness.
And that was mild compared to what I've seen. So many here are quick to give "financial advice." I think they all just finished a Dave Ramsey workshop and want to flex some 101 muscles. Strangely it's only on the Gen3 section hmm

Remember, Dave Ramsey jumped zero raptors last year
 
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TLDR is texting shorthand for "Too Long, didn't read". It used to be displayed as "TL;DR" but that semicolon made it too long I guess.
I must be a dope. I thought it meant tell dealer and had no clue what that meant either. lol.
 

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And that was mild compared to what I've seen. So many here are quick to give "financial advice." I think they all just finished a Dave Ramsey workshop and want to flex some 101 muscles. Strangely it's only on the Gen3 section hmm

Remember, Dave Ramsey jumped zero raptors last year
Wasn't meant to give financial advice, i was trying to give original poster's "philosophy" discussion. It was very long way to say ADM is whatever one feels like paying or not.
 

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I'd love to hear them. The only reason you would pay cash would be you're simply a millionaire and don't want to deal with it or you couldn't make more money elsewhere. Being as your displaying cheap concerns I doubt you are. At nearly 1.9% you would be an idiot to not be able to do better with investing. The fact that you are comparing a Raptor to a Vette tells me you have no idea what you want. Doors that way....
You don’t sound nearly successful enough to be giving out financial advice. Try again when you have enough disposable income to not finance frivolous purchases like this. When I was a poor boy I financed everything. Now I finance nothing. That doesn’t happen because one is stupid.
 

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Wasn't meant to give financial advice, i was trying to give original poster's "philosophy" discussion. It was very long way to say ADM is whatever one feels like paying or not.
I wasn't referring to your post and didn't even see it until now. But I just read it and wow
 

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And that was mild compared to what I've seen. So many here are quick to give "financial advice." I think they all just finished a Dave Ramsey workshop and want to flex some 101 muscles. Strangely it's only on the Gen3 section hmm

Remember, Dave Ramsey jumped zero raptors last year
Actually I think Dave is a Raptor owner
 
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