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[Cleave]

I meant because of their length, not because of the cab size

 

[Yukon Joe]

I am currently on a road trip. When I get back next week and to a PC I will explain everything about the insurance other than the money involved. I did learn a lot and you all will find some of it very interesting.

As far as the cab. Probably stay with a SCAB so I can reuse my interior pieces.

Understandable and much appreciated.

Yukon Joe
www.RUNRAPTORRUN.com

 

[MTUH3]

Looking forward to the build.

 

[KKILLIAN]

I am currently on a road trip. When I get back next week and to a PC I will explain everything about the insurance other than the money involved. I did learn a lot and you all will find some of it very interesting.

As far as the cab. Probably stay with a SCAB so I can reuse my interior pieces.

Looking forward to reading about it.

 

[Wilson]

you can put insurance on almost anything. but it has to be in place before hand. you can insure a nice day you either take it or cancel the day.

 

[Kuuaki]

I am currently on a road trip. When I get back next week and to a PC I will explain everything about the insurance other than the money involved. I did learn a lot and you all will find some of it very interesting.

As far as the cab. Probably stay with a SCAB so I can reuse my interior pieces.

And by SCAB he means SCREW after the truck is extended...lol welcome to the force!

I'm excited to see the final product. Your truck was badarse before and will be even more so now.



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[Glassman]

It has been over a month since I rolled my truck. It has been a long month with many phone calls, emails, faxes and a few heated discussions. I finely wrapped up the last part tonight and we settled.

Of course we have been planning on the rebuild since the roll but had to wait to make sure everything was going to work out.

So the rebuilding of RSV5 will now start. I spoke with Connor tonight and we are finishing up the final details. The way it is looking now it will be, a used cab, fiberglass fenders, fiberglass bed sides, new cage, frame cut off behind the cab, stretched 10 inches, long travel front, linked rear, Currie rear end with Detroit locker and gears.

I am sure there will be more as we get going. The plan is to build an updated version of RSV1.

I will keep you all updated as we progress. I am sure this will take a while but will be well worth the wait.

So Gordon when this truck is completed and it sounds like its going to be killer is this going to be your dd or with its new blood will push to far for dd ?

Have you talked with anyone about this or have anyone's apinion as to how this type of hard core truck will be ?

 

[GBrown1867]

So Gordon when this truck is completed and it sounds like its going to be killer is this going to be your dd or with its new blood will push to far for dd ?

Have you talked with anyone about this or have anyone's apinion as to how this type of hard core truck will be ?

Prior to the accident my truck was no longer a DD anyways, so that is of no concern to me. As far as what it will be when its finished, it will be street legal. However, I wouldn't want to drive it everyday. There is a reason we wear headsets in RSV1, it sounds like the Titanic going down the road. Once a truck reaches that level of performance you give up a lot of the creature comforts of a stock Raptor. The bypass shocks and everything being solid mounted makes a great deal of noise.

 

[E63]

Prior to the accident my truck was no longer a DD anyways, so that is of no concern to me. As far as what it will be when its finished, it will be street legal. However, I wouldn't want to drive it everyday. There is a reason we wear headsets in RSV1, it sounds like the Titanic going down the road. Once a truck reaches that level of performance you give up a lot of the creature comforts of a stock Raptor. The bypass shocks and everything being solid mounted makes a great deal of noise.

Another consideration why a caged truck is not ideal for use as a DD is relatively minor accidents (compared to rolling down a boulder laced embankment) without wearing a helmet could be very bad, even fatal depending on location, padding, type of impact forces etc.

Gordon, Looking forward to the rebirth, need to put some phoenix wings on the Raptor graphics! Meanwhile enjoy the new tt pocket rocket, it should fill the void for a while.

 

[GBrown1867]

I hope some of you find this informative. What I will speak about has to do with insurance in CA. As I will explain later it is different for every state.

I will start by saying, as most of you know I am a Deputy Sheriff and the thought of being dishonest regarding this accident never entered my mind. My career is not worth the little amount of money I will have to pay for taking the at fault accident.
The day after Thanksgiving we were going to do our third annual Death Valley run. Approximately 30-40 minutes into the run I went off the road and rolled three times down a 60 foot embankment.

• In order for insurance to cover the accident you need to be on a maintained marked road. It does not matter if it is dirt.

Connor had towed RSV1 to Barstow so we had a trailer close by. As Matt and Connor went to go get the trailer we started the process of getting the truck ready so we could move it. (Would have been very difficult the get the trailer to where the truck was. We pulled off the broken left front components and replaced the left rear flat. We hooked it to Kevin’s truck and drove/pulled it back up to the main dirt road. At that point we were able to get it onto the trailer with some creative thinking. (A block of wood under the lower control arm and soaking the ramp with WD40.

From there the truck was towed back to Outlaw so I did not have to deal with recovery cost or towing fees.

I contacted my insurance on Monday and filed the claim. The first thing they wanted to do was move it to one of their repair facilities. I refused and told them it had to stay where it was and I would cover storage fees. I also told them I wanted to buy the truck back after the claim was settled. They sent an adjuster to look at it on Wednesday and he totaled it right away. I was contacted Friday by the total loss department who told me the truck was totaled, they wanted to move it again and it was only worth 37k. I explained to the claims agent that it was worth more than 37k even if it was a stock Raptor and I still wanted to buy the truck back. He asked me to provide receipts for all the parts on my truck. This took me several days to compile and then I sent all the receipts via fax the following week. I also sent ads for Raptor’s that were for sale. After reviewing the receipts and ads they hired an independent appraiser.

The appraiser went to Outlaw and conducted the appraisal. In the shop at the time was RSV1, RSV2, G&P’s race Raptor, a long travel truck built for somebody in Dubai and Rick’s long travel. This is important because it shows my truck is not a one off build and there are others like it. The appraisal was completed and they were shocked that a “F150” could be worth that much money.

• CA is the only state that insurance companies have to pay for all modifications that are permanently affixed to the vehicle (Bolted/welded). The exception is custom paint.

I had a preliminary payout amount from the insurance and was told they had the right to put the truck up for auction and I would be able to outbid the highest bidder. The truck went up for auction the week of Christmas which was probably good for me. On Monday the 30th the auction concluded and I was told what the bid was and asked if I still wanted to purchase the truck back. (Which I did)

So at that point I was told the only other issue I could have was if I had been involved in a race or a sanctioned event. One of their investigators researched races for that weekend and looked to see if I was registered in any events. I also sent pictures of the scene with me in my shorts and a t-shirt. (Not a very good racing suit) After their investigation was complete I was told there no more issues and I would be issued a check minus the buy back. The truck will now have a salvaged title which is no big deal for this type of vehicle.

So in CA as long as you are on a maintained road, not racing, not involved in a sanctioned event, all the permanent modifications are to be covered by the insurance and per the state law it is up to the underwriter to be aware of what type of vehicle they are insuring.

What I do not know if events like RE, TRR, SnoBall and all the other events if the truck would be covered. Not sure if they would consider that a sanctioned event since fees are charged.

Hope this helped to answer some questions.