Ford Performance Tune for Gen 3s

[shigman]

Makes me think the 3.0 is a better engine factoring hp/displacement.

 

[Gsteve]

The question is would anyone even consider the Ford tune if Cobb and goose could do the 23s , sounds like some people are trying talk themselves into the Ford tune.

only the dim few

 

[Gsteve]

Correct me if I'm wrong but to date we have:

1. Whipple tune (stage 1) to make an amazing 80* foot pounds of torque and 30* horsepower more than stock
2. Livernois-23 need to get a new ECM peak vs. peak gains of over 83WHP and 113WTQ, with maximum gains of over 90WHP and 117WTQ
3 Ford Performance ecoqueef numbers

if youre willing to swap eco theres many options

 

[Great Scott]

Correct me if I'm wrong but to date we have:

1. Whipple tune (stage 1) to make an amazing 80* foot pounds of torque and 30* horsepower more than stock
2. Livernois-23 need to get a new ECM peak vs. peak gains of over 83WHP and 113WTQ, with maximum gains of over 90WHP and 117WTQ
3 Ford Performance ecoqueef numbers

I'm close to getting the Whipple tune after reading more lately. I'm not looking at just peak power, but power across the whole curve and they seem to have the most robust gains across the curve on 93 octane. Don't have to buy a new ECU or get it "unlocked".

I really think the Whipple tune is just the FP tune but with 93 octane. Curves look similar.

 

[Gsteve]

I'm close to getting the Whipple tune after reading more lately. I'm not looking at just peak power, but power across the whole curve and they seem to have the most robust gains across the curve on 93 octane. Don't have to buy a new ECU or get it "unlocked".

I really think the Whipple tune is just the FP tune but with 93 octane. Curves look similar.

I think you’re right. On 91 I think they claim 30 hp

 

[raydulce]

I think you’re right. On 91 I think they claim 30 hp

So what is the limiting factor on our trucks then, if Whipple and Ford Performance reached similar results with thier tunes? (as compared to the Ranger Raptor gains of course...)

 

[GooseTuned]

Curious to hear @GooseTuned expert opinion about the FP tune and why it’s so mild.

They're conservative. They still can't tune a truck individually like a pro tuner can (feasibly), so they bump power just a little bit over stock and call it a day. The people who like modding Fords way will.

 

[Gsteve]

So what is the limiting factor on our trucks then, if Whipple and Ford Performance reached similar results with thier tunes? (as compared to the Ranger Raptor gains of course...)

they are being super safe and making sure that nothing every fails even if the user puts in 87 or does something else dumb. Goose and mpt can get us to 100 hp

 

[tone228]

They're conservative. They still can't tune a truck individually like a pro tuner can (feasibly), so they bump power just a little bit over stock and call it a day. The people who like modding Fords way will.

FP were able to gain twice as much horsepower and torque from the 3.0 compared to the 3.5. I just don’t understand why they were conservative with the F150 Raptor tune that has to now compete with the RHO, meanwhile the Ranger Raptor was already the most powerful midsize on stock tune.

 

[GooseTuned]

FP were able to gain twice as much horsepower and torque from the 3.0 compared to the 3.5. I just don’t understand why they were conservative with the F150 Raptor tune that has to now compete with the RHO, meanwhile the Ranger Raptor was already the most powerful midsize on stock tune.

The 3.0 has better turbos, and is a stronger motor. Not sure if that played into the decision.

I'm guessing that the 3.0 is probably their future path forward so maybe they want to show people "what it can really do". Who knows. The raptor tune is way conservative though!