Ford building 2,600 Raptors per month???

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Bombsquad68

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Hey Scott,
as of right now I only have the white one left, we sold the black one Saturday. these things have been on our lot for no longer than 3 days because of how popular they are and limited production. there will not be a 2018 model raptor, due to the fact the F150 is getting a facelift again and when ford does a body refresh they wont come out with the limited production vehicles until the following year so they can see how people react to new stylings. And the other problem is that I can get you any color you want in a raptor, but dealers are selling them to other dealers for msrp, so I would be purchasing the truck at MSRP to turn around and sell which would in return raise the price for you over MSRP. The white one I have in stock is our truck so I can offer this one up for MSRP which isn't a bad deal since these things are technically going up in value recently with their popularity. we can always do a colored wrap on the truck in any color you want which alor of people do to these trucks anyways to go with the tough rugged façade these trucks have. so I guess let me know if you would want me to look into cost of a wrap for the truck and hopefully*work something out for you.*
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Wow, I shouldn't be surprised, but there's written proof of salesmen straight up lying to a consumer. You should at least send him the info right from Ford talking about 2018 Raptors and call this retard out.

Also he says the trucks are "technically" going up in value right now, because in salesman economics, supply increases and demand decreases = prices rise.
 

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Well, clearly I'm not alone because there are plenty of other threads discussing similar complaints. In fact, I just wrote a comment on the wall of shame thread where I mentioned that "I just don't like being lied to. In fact, I despise it. If this were a Porsche 918 or even an NFGT, I would obviously understand the ADM and would even pay it if the market required so. On those types of cars, there really is limited supply and the ADM is supported by a genuine market.

With the Raptor, the ADM is based upon a fictional story that Ford dealers are pitching you. They want you to believe that these are limited production, that there are no more allocations, that there will be no 2018's, etc. It's all false, and it's intended to artificially inflate the market. If you think it is fair for dealers to disseminate misinformation, then this must be your first bbq."

You can have your opinion but I can tell you I paid $2,500 over MSRP for my truck and I am far from stupid.....

One post here is from a pedantic lawyer who wants to lecture anyone willing to listen about how dealers and Ford are evil, and a bunch of other things that are too boring or incorrect to even read and repeat. Said pedantic lawyer will also spend months and months on the internet telling people why he wants a new truck but doesn't have one yet.

One post is from a free market consumer who is enjoying his new truck already, that he could afford to pay over MSRP for. For no other reason other than "he could"

Go figure which is which.
 
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Up here in Canada it goes a lot different than the U.S. as here the raptors/shelbys are sold through fp dealers not every ****** off ford store around. when I ordered in august that price was what was on the window sticker and that was what I paid. I would be very surprised if anyone here in Canada paid over msrp, but I have noticed used 2017 raptors now selling over msrp! btw a loaded up screw with tax is $100,000.00 here .
 

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One post here is from a pedantic lawyer who wants to lecture anyone willing to listen about how dealers and Ford are evil, and a bunch of other things that are too boring or incorrect to even read and repeat. Said pedantic lawyer will also spend months and months on the internet telling people why he wants a new truck but doesn't have one yet.

One post is from a free market consumer who is enjoying his new truck already, that he could afford to pay over MSRP for. For no other reason other than "he could"

Go figure which is which.

In typical lawyer fashion everything has to be adversarial. Pretty sure he cares more about "winning" than actually owning the truck.
 
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One post here is from a pedantic lawyer who wants to lecture anyone willing to listen about how dealers and Ford are evil, and a bunch of other things that are too boring or incorrect to even read and repeat. Said pedantic lawyer will also spend months and months on the internet telling people why he wants a new truck but doesn't have one yet.

One post is from a free market consumer who is enjoying his new truck already, that he could afford to pay over MSRP for. For no other reason other than "he could"

Go figure which is which.

Did someone **** in your porridge?

Did you even read my post? Where am I lecturing anyone? What is "too incorrect" about anything I stated?

Are disagreeing that Ford is making 2,600 per month? Or are you disagreeing that dealers are lying to buyers about availability?

Are you a dealer? Or are you an Internet troll looking to start an argument merely for the sake of doing so?

I honestly cannot fathom the intent behind your unproductive post.

If you want to contribute to the discussion, maybe you could contribute something intelligent next time.

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In typical lawyer fashion everything has to be adversarial. Pretty sure he cares more about "winning" than actually owning the truck.

Unless you and I know each other, I doubt you have any idea about what I care about. Yes, winning is great, but I can't see its connection to owning a truck. If sharing my personal buying experience for others to learn from is considered winning to you, then you are correct.
 

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Did someone **** in your porridge?

Did you even read my post? Where am I lecturing anyone? What is "too incorrect" about anything I stated?

Are disagreeing that Ford is making 2,600 per month? Or are you disagreeing that dealers are lying to buyers about availability?

Are you a dealer? Or are you an Internet troll looking to start an argument merely for the sake of doing so?

I honestly cannot fathom the intent behind your unproductive post.

If you want to contribute to the discussion, maybe you could contribute something intelligent next time.

He never actually contributes anything of value. He just gets angry at people on here. Just watch, I bet he gets mad at me for having a Gen1 and daring to be on here.

as far as the thread topic: So the hell what if Ford makes more Raptors? most people here already have theirs or have theirs on order. I guess maybe people would be upset if they paid a premium thinking they got a limited run vehicle. At the end of the day though they chose to pay an ADM and Ford can choose to produce more.

There's nothing wrong with waiting to score one at a fair price either. Which is what I'd do if I wanted one.
 

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dealers and particularly salesmen are told almost nothing. and will say anything to make a sale.

people that listen to them crack me up.
 
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The intent of the thread was merely to demonstrate that "waiting it out" for MSRP and lower is not likely to take anywhere near as long as we are being told.

The production volumes at 2,600/mo. just cannot support ADM pricing for anything more than the very near term.
 

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In typical lawyer fashion everything has to be adversarial. Pretty sure he cares more about "winning" than actually owning the truck.

lol....If you could enlighten me as to what I have "won" I would love to know....that statement is very confusing....what's the contest?

to be honest this is the only place that price is discussed....in the real world I have gotten lots of compliments and not one person has asked "how much did it cost?" or "how much over sticker did you pay?"
 
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