Fabtech makes it - Outlaw is offering it! 4" SUSPENSION LIFT (WHAT?! RUCRAZEE?!)

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I had a fabtech on my 2006 Ranger. It served its purpose.

 

[MagicMtnDan]

no, a lift kit for a raptor is a fail.

its a raptor. its built for a pretty specific purpose. if you're going to spend the money on a raptor, why ruin it with a cheap drop bracket kit.

it will be slower offroad, will not go over any larger obstacles than a stock raptor, and it will just look wrong.

is there more ground clearance and better approach departure angles? sure. but that front diff is just as low as stock. you wont drag it over anything larger than a stock one will.

if you want a lifted f150, get a f150 and lift it.

but wait, sorry. I dont own a raptor so obviously i dont know that lift kits are what the cool kids all want.

be right back, gotta go tell robby gordon he needs a lift kit so he can fit bigger tires and look cool.

You said, "its a raptor. its built for a pretty specific purpose. if you're going to spend the money on a raptor, why ruin it with a cheap drop bracket kit."

The Raptor started out as a very capable F-150 4x4 pickup truck that could 4 wheel with the best of them (the biggest disadvantage a Raptor has off road is its size) whether it's rock crawling, slinging mud, sand duning or high-speed desert running. The Raptor was modified to do the latter better than any other production truck because it could already do all of the other things as well as most of the other pickups.

In YOUR OPINION the Raptor was built for a "pretty specific purpose" and you think "if you're going to spend the money on a Raptor, why ruin it with a cheap drop bracket kit" which is a pretty stupid way of saying an engineered suspension lift kit (and there are plenty of companies that offer such kits) will "ruin" a Raptor.

You don't like suspension lifts. You don't like suspension lifts on Raptors. You like to talk about what Raptor owners should and shouldn't do with their trucks. We get it.

But it's your opinion. And you don't own a Raptor. And this is a thread talking about the FabTech suspension lift designed for Raptors and sold by companies like Outlaw. And lots of Raptor owners do and will like this lift kit (and others when they are available). This thread is for them and all the other haters who want to spend their time criticizing a mod that thousands of pickup truck owners have spent hard-earned money on because they like what they do and the way they look.

Get over it. You made your point now move along to the drink drank drunk and count to 1,000 threads so you can build up your post count beyond the measly 16,000+ posts you've accumulated.

 

[6.2]

Get over it. You made your point now move along to the drink drank drunk and count to 1,000 threads so you can build up your post count beyond the measly 16,000+ posts you've accumulated.

and i say this right back at ya.

get over it. you made your point that you dont like me simply because i dont own a raptor. now move along to another member who doesnt own a raptor so you can build up your ego by acting tough on the internet.

am I not allowed to state my opinion? didnt see where that was against the rules.

im not telling people not to go buy it. im simply saying i think its stupid. im 100% allowed to state my opinion, as well as reply to people who want to challenege my opinion. thats all im doing here. and I suppose in a way, thats all your doing as well. yet you want me to stop. well, I wont. get over it.

 

[MagicMtnDan]

you made your point that you dont like me simply because i dont own a raptor.

Let me say this one more time: it doesn't matter that you don't own a Raptor. What matters is that you put down and insult Raptor owners and you tell them what you think they should and shouldn't do.

And there's no rule against that - you're entitled to your opinion. It's just that your opinion is based on owning a Ford Ranger, your age, inexperience, not owning a Raptor and living in Canada and, for some reason you feel the need to be post-******* on this Raptor forum.

And to be clear - it's not that I don't like you. I just wish you would've stayed away when you said you were leaving.

 

[6.2]

uh, i am not putting down raptor owners at all. i am putting down a 4" lift kit on a raptor. or any similar lift kit on an IFS truck

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Let me say this one more time: it doesn't matter that you don't own a Raptor. What matters is that you put down and insult Raptor owners and you tell them what you think they should and shouldn't do.

And there's no rule against that - you're entitled to your opinion. It's just that your opinion is based on owning a Ford Ranger, your age, inexperience, not owning a Raptor and living in Canada and, for some reason you feel the need to be post-******* on this Raptor forum.

And to be clear - it's not that I don't like you. I just wish you would've stayed away when you said you were leaving.

hmm... a bit of a contradiction going on.

yet another one.

my opinion is based on all drop bracket lift kits. theyre junk. all of em. ones for ford rangers and ones for ford raptors. all of em. thats my opinion.


and who are you to tell me im inexperienced. you dont know me.

you keep saying you have nothing against me, yet you cant leave me the **** alone or give it a rest. i post here because i like the community (for the most part) and i am a ford raptor fan. ******* deal with it already. 16000 posts in 3 years is not that much at all. go rag on noah if you wanna bitch at someone for posting lots. hes been here a lot less and has almsot as many posts.

getting ******* tired of your shit.

yeah, i drive a ranger, we're not all rich and can afford raptors. yeah i live in canada, and im damn proud to. and im damn glad i dont live in the US.

 

[Madcowranch]

 

[Yukon Joe]

I've always wondered if there would be a "discussion" of the "truth" about Raptor suspension mods and real-world use of these trucks. (So far, from what I've seen, I think only BStoner has touched on this in his build thread - I think).

This is as good a place as any to touch on this subject - some thought-provoking comments that you may or may not agree with:


* It's likely that most who drive their Raptors off road are doing so for the first time (the Raptor is their 1st off roader)

* People spend a LOT of money on these trucks and on their mods

* Much of the money (most?) is spent on upgrading what is already an industry-leading, stock suspension

* A driver can get in deep DOO DOO with a stock Raptor driven hard/fast off road (especially if this is the 1st vehicle they've off roaded - nothing makes bad things happen like higher speeds and more challenging terrain)

* An upgraded suspension can get a driver in deeper DOO DOO and do it faster than with the stock suspension

* I believe many who have upgraded their suspensions did so not because they NEEDED it but because they WANTED it


And one conclusion I draw from the above comment is this (blasphemy, I know):

MANY Raptor owners would get the LOOK they want and still get the PERFORMANCE they need from a suspension lift - because they don't off road much or at all, don't off road at higher speeds and/or won't risk damaging their VERY EXPENSIVE Raptor (especially the garage queen and street queen crowd). Of course for those who go out and challenge their stock suspensions (intentionally or not!) the suspension lift MAY not be the best choice.

I'm just trying to get this out there for discussion. So, what do you think?

Dan, do you want a lift kit? You know you don't need to ask us or 6.2 for permission... wait... I think RW just
shouted something to me.... oh, she said "Do it!"

You toss out a lot of discussion points ON THE INTERNET, your going to get responses you don't like, deal with it!

Yeah, to be kind (I'm trying), not exactly. No offense but your post is a FAIL.

If you had $0.05 for every IFS truck that had a suspension lift you'd be able to afford a Raptor.

And lift kits add clearance underneath the whole truck not just in the middle.

No one except you said anything about "mud bogging" The poster said he wants to use his Raptor in the mud, in "muddy terrain."

And since you said it, "if the terrain you ride on require a lift kit, yeah, wrong truck." Really? Why can't the Raptor have a suspension lift when a Ford F-150 can and most all other pickups can? Is it because you say so?

You did say, "personally, id go SAS (Solid Axle Suspension) before i went drop bracket lift kit on an IFS truck. Hell, id go body lift before i went drop bracket lift kit." This is pure genius on your part. You're busy spending Raptor people's money on throwing out their IFS and replacing it with a solid front axle which would cost a ton of money and, for what purpose? Mud bogging that no one is talking about but you? And suggesting a body lift - what, a 4" body lift instead of a 4" suspension lift? Seriously?

OK, so you think a pickup truck with a suspension lift, "looks silly." OK. That's the only thing you said that's an opinion and that's the only thing you said that isn't correct.

A bit literal Dan?

Actually, only about 50 people heard it from SVT during the snoball500 interview / meeting. The Raptor was built to perform across the board. They had a slide in the presentation that showed a spider web with 5 points. And each point was an a representation of a different capability. The point with the most capability stuck out the furthest. I wish I took a photo of this style of graph, it was a great representation of the Raptor. I don't remember all 5 points, but the message was the Raptor was meant for many different capabilities. I do remember, 4x4 system being one of the weaker capabilities.

Any way, MMD & 6.2... if you guys don't quite bickering at each other, this thread of doomed for sloppy seconds. Opinions were asked for and stated. Thank you...

Ok whos next?

Yukon Joe
GLRE Support Raptor
WWW.RUNRAPTORRUN.COM

 

[Madcowranch]

Dan, do you want a lift kit? You know you don't need to ask us or 6.2 for permission... wait... I think RW just
shouted something to me.... oh, she said "Do it!"

You toss out a lot of discussion points ON THE INTERNET, your going to get responses you don't like, deal with it!






A bit literal Dan?

Actually, only about 50 people heard it from SVT during the snoball500 interview / meeting. The Raptor was built to perform across the board. They had a slide in the presentation that showed a spider web with 5 points. And each point was an a representation of a different capability. The point with the most capability stuck out the furthest. I wish I took a photo of this style of graph, it was a great representation of the Raptor. I don't remember all 5 points, but the message was the Raptor was meant for many different capabilities. I do remember, 4x4 system being one of the weaker capabilities.

Any way, MMD & 6.2... if you guys don't quite bickering at each other, this thread of doomed for sloppy seconds. Opinions were asked for and stated. Thank you...

Ok whos next?

Yukon Joe
GLRE Support Raptor
GREAT LAKES RAPTOR EXCURSIONS

Finally someone talking sense around here!

 

[MagicMtnDan]

Actually, only about 50 people heard it from SVT during the snoball500 interview / meeting. The Raptor was built to perform across the board. They had a slide in the presentation that showed a spider web with 5 points. And each point was an a representation of a different capability. The point with the most capability stuck out the furthest. I wish I took a photo of this style of graph, it was a great representation of the Raptor. I don't remember all 5 points, but the message was the Raptor was meant for many different capabilities. I do remember, 4x4 system being one of the weaker capabilities.

Joe, you're re-stating what I already said (and that's cool)...

The Raptor started out as a very capable F-150 4x4 pickup truck that could 4 wheel with the best of them (the biggest disadvantage a Raptor has off road is its size) whether it's rock crawling, slinging mud, sand duning or high-speed desert running. The Raptor was modified to do the latter better than any other production truck because it could already do all of the other things as well as most of the other pickups.

 

[Yukon Joe]

yes I am, It was a stated fact from SVT Jamal himself.