Crash protection removed from Raptor?

[Aaron313]

I doubt anyone has removed one yet, but feel free to enlighten me as to the weight of the bumper on this generation.



I watched the video with the engineer showing off the rolling chassis and he said it's solid steel, looked fairly thick to me, but they didn't weight it.

Ask Add. Don't see that bumper changing that much from the last gen. If I'm correct the last gen bumper weighed less than 50 lbs without the skid plates. I don't see or recall ford saying anything about the bumper being more heavy duty than the last truck


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Aaron]

Last gen stock bumper was surprisingly light. 50lbs is probably a stretch.

 

[Wilson]

Stock bumper on G1 is lighter than any aftermarket one that I know of

 

[Mesozoic]

Maybe they left the crash bars off to reduce weight and improve mpg. Uncle Sam is making manufacturers get those CAFE numbers up by any means possible. The Government knows what's best for us. (/sarc)

 

[ovrlnd]

Wouldn't the most obvious reason why these aren't on Raptors because it's an off-road truck with 35" tires which have to stuff into the 6" bulged fenders when fully using the 12" travel shocks in the front...

But most of you probably won't use the travel so maybe go get these bars and put them in yourself.

Well the travel wouldn't be effected by bars that are fore and aft of the tires. And since you can fit 35s on a standard screw without modifications it's unlikely that clearance is the reason.

I think cost is a factor, but the real reason, I suspect, is that you'd see them in the cutouts of the bumper. It wouldn't surprise me if they didn't even realize it until the bodywork was signed off on, and so they just said 'screw it, leave the bars off'.

 

[EricM]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BcYtskkzFo

45 seconds in- a side by side of the 2015 F150 Supercab (w/o crash bars) vs the 2106 Supercab (with crash bars). Amazing difference. Really hard to just shrug off that difference. I'd know which truck I'd rather be in during that wreck. Watch the a-pillar, it just collapses rearward in the 2015.

The bars are much more important on the Supercab as they have no b-pillar- ie the cab itself is much weaker than a crew cab with it's proper b-pillar. Supercabs are notorious for poor crash performance. Here's an older 2001 model Supercab folding up in similar fashion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i5EmJBaGeQ That is a less severe test "moderate" overlap vs the new "small" overlap, so they have at least gotten much better.

Heres the 2015 Supercab vs the 2015 Supercrew- 60 seconds in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V5WGkRZQOU

Ford should have tweaked the bars if needed for the tires instead of just saying **** it and leaving them off entirely.

 

[FFCars]

45 seconds in- a side by side of the 2015 F150 Supercab (w/o crash bars) vs the 2106 Supercab (with crash bars). Amazing difference. Really hard to just shrug off that difference. I'd know which truck I'd rather be in during that wreck. Watch the a-pillar, it just collapses rearward in the 2015.

Heres the 2015 Supercab vs the 2015 Supercrew- 60 seconds in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V5WGkRZQOU

Ford should have tweaked the bars if needed for the tires instead of just saying **** it and leaving them off entirely.

I'm with you. I wouldn't want to drive something that can crumble so badly.

 

[Wilson]

it's not about the crumpling look at IndyCar's they are designed to crumple

 

[17Jake]

Travel isn't be affected by bars that are fore/aft of the tires.
35's fit a standard SCrew without mods.
The real reason is you'd see 'em in the bumper cutouts.

unmatched insight
#low IQ

 

[ovrlnd]

Someone should teach jake how to use the quote function so he doesn't have to retype everything he quotes.

it's not about the crumpling look at IndyCar's they are designed to crumple

Yeah, but with body on frame trucks, if whatever you hit doesn't hit the frame, then you're screwed. Especially when all the body work up front is composite.