2020 Changes and F-150 Order Guide

[pierceography]

It's speculation. It's educated speculation, but still. Been in the industry for years and have lots of contacts at press and OEMs. I can tell you this: no one knows what Ford is doing, so anyone who claims otherwise is full of it.

Don't believe anything you read in the press unless it has a press release from Ford tied to it. Everyone from OEMs to tuners (us included haha) have learned that the automotive media will publish anything you send them, so fake news is the new normal. All signs point to the latest round of Supercharged 5.2L Raptor fake news was just a response to Rebel TRX fake news. Safe money is that neither truck is coming.

Latest release calendars from FCA have the Rebel TRX as a 2023 model (so too far out to know anything). On the Raptor side, 13th Gen F150 production should stop around May 2020 for the new 2021 model F150. Ford will not hold over a Raptor that has styling from it's 2015 model F150 when it's trying to sell you the latest and greatest "all-new" 2021.

You have to realize the Raptor is not a profit center for Ford, it is a flagship. It is used to draw attention to the Ford F150 and capture some high-end customers. Ford put an ecoboost in the 2nd gen because they want people to think "if it's good enough for the Raptor, it's good enough for my F150." Ford has made clear (through press releases and production numbers) that they do not want to sell you a V8 F150, so there's no need for a V8 Raptor. When Ford wants to sell more hybrid F150s (which appears to be their direction), that's what they'll put in the Raptor.

Very solid points. Thank you for going into a little more detail. The only item you noted that I'm a little skeptical on is the hybrid Raptor. I think that's a possibility at some point in the future, though I would be surprised if one landed in the first MY (of the Raptor).

I think you're spot on regarding Ford needing to respond to the TRX. How long has a Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 been available? And am I mistaken or did Ford start selling the new Explorer ST with an ecoboost? The only numbers Ford cares about are sales figures, and I bet the Explorer ST outsells a Grand Cherokee SRT 10:1. So clearly Ford doesn't need to respond to the "horsepower war"; Same way they don't need to respond to a fictional (and less capable) TRX that's like going to run $40k more than a Raptor. So yeah, agree with you 100% on that one.

 

[V8Raptor]

Yeah, I'm probably out on a limb with the Hybrid thing. But Ford is about to release a Hybrid F150 and are proud of their new system. It's a small, modular design that can fit with any 10-speed application. Numbers are 450hp/600tq in the Aviator concept, so Raptor-worthy. Ford has been touting it's ability to power tools and camping items. So these things make me think they may want to showcase it in their F150 flagship and market that it fits the Raptor lifestyle.

 

[TXCobra]

Interesting, so almost no functional or feature changes from 19-20...I didn't expect big changes, but thought there were a few small things that would make me a little jealous

 

[Bat]

No reason to buy a 20 instead of 19 unless you want leadfoot

 

[Raptor911]

https://www.fordraptorforum.com/threads/2020-raptor-3-sample-builds.69699/#post-1379909

Any idea how much the base price increases as well as the price on the 802A Package now that the Tech Package is forced/included with 802A?

 

[BaseRaptor]

I agree with what your saying. My guess is summer of 2020 is when we will see the next generation 2021 F150 hit the streets. Competition is brutal in this market segment and Ford will make sure they stay #1.

They must have employees/vendors “in the know” sign a non disclosure agreement that includes an immediate termination clause.

 

[Dirtypope]

What? No V12, no self jumping shocks, no self charging whole cabin!?!? Are u f****g kidding me???????

BORING!!!

 

[df4801]

Interesting, so almost no functional or feature changes from 19-20...I didn't expect big changes, but thought there were a few small things that would make me a little jealous

I don't think we will see any Raptor change until 2022 or 2023 model which will be the Gen3

 

[2017svt]

I don't think we will see any Raptor change until 2022 or 2023 model which will be the Gen3

And a year or more delay like from the 2014 -2017 ? [emoji849][emoji41]

 

[tmd11111]

V8 will be in the 18’s. Nope
V8 will be in the 19’s. Nope
V8 will be in the 20’s. Nope
V8 will be in the ......

Give it a ****** rest