GEN 2 2017 Transmission

[Mikee Martin]

I work on all year make and model motorcycles. The name of my 16 year old business is Seaside Superbikes if you dought me. The Japanese design vehicles that are far superior to any of ours. The Service Manuals are easy to read and work with. Parts are sourced from all over, however the base is solid. This is where we **** Up in our Beloved County. I love America, support local and small business but our vehicles still need some help. My 2017 Ford Raptor is awesome when it works. I love the truck. God help our Country and Car Manufacturers to figure the shit out. Pray

 

[smurfslayer]

I was following a motorcycle show a few years ago and there was an episode on KHI, the parent company of Kawasaki. It’s their practice that the Kawasaki engineers spend 6 months on the assembly line to understand the impact of design changes, how the end user and service will need to perform routine maintenance and common repairs. I paid attention to that one because I’ve had 2x Kawasaki I’ve owned for 15+ years each. One day in ... I think it was 2008, the rear brake light on my 1990 ZX11 wasn’t triggering from the brake lever, but was from the foot pedal. I looked it up online, it is the same part for the entire model line of street bikes for time immemorial. On a bet, I pulled my ’06 ZX14 lever apart, put in the old bike and it worked.
ordered the part for something like 5 bucks and was back in business in a couple days.

It was the -only- part failure I had on the ’11 in 16 years of ownership that wasn’t a problem I caused (by extensive motor work, and what not).

I hope they get the truck fixed soon.

 

[FordTechOne]

I work on all year make and model motorcycles. The name of my 16 year old business is Seaside Superbikes if you dought me. The Japanese design vehicles that are far superior to any of ours. The Service Manuals are easy to read and work with. Parts are sourced from all over, however the base is solid. This is where we **** Up in our Beloved County. I love America, support local and small business but our vehicles still need some help. My 2017 Ford Raptor is awesome when it works. I love the truck. God help our Country and Car Manufacturers to figure the shit out. Pray

So you tuned and modified your truck, experienced a transmission issue, and now you’re blaming the manufacturer and making baseless claims about the American auto industry as a whole? I understand you’re frustrated, but don’t be ridiculous.

As far as Japanese designed vehicles, they are in no way “superior” to ours. I work on all makes and models, and Japanese vehicles have just as many issues as vehicles from any other country. Additionally, in many cases they’re 10+ years behind in technology. This fallacy that a vehicle is somehow better because it’s Japanese baseless and just plain ridiculous. Look no further than Nissan and Mitsubishi, they are absolute bottom of the barrel garbage. Subaru’s quality is horrendous, Hondas burn oil, stretch timing chains, and can’t keep a transmission functional for more than 75k miles. Toyota is still using drum brakes on 2021 models, and they rust out at the sight of rain.

As far as Workshop manual and wiring diagram, Ford is one of the best in the business. Everything is in color and detailed with 3D color coded CAD drawings. Many of the Japanese and Koreans are still using black and white drawings; they’re antiquated and lack detail.

 

[Mikee Martin]

So you tuned and modified your truck, experienced a transmission issue, and now you’re blaming the manufacturer and making baseless claims about the American auto industry as a whole? I understand you’re frustrated, but don’t be ridiculous.

As far as Japanese designed vehicles, they are in no way “superior” to ours. I work on all makes and models, and Japanese vehicles have just as many issues as vehicles from any other country. Additionally, in many cases they’re 10+ years behind in technology. This fallacy that a vehicle is somehow better because it’s Japanese baseless and just plain ridiculous. Look no further than Nissan and Mitsubishi, they are absolute bottom of the barrel garbage. Subaru’s quality is horrendous, Hondas burn oil, stretch timing chains, and can’t keep a transmission functional for more than 75k miles. Toyota is still using drum brakes on 2021 models, and they rust out at the sight of rain.

As far as Workshop manual and wiring diagram, Ford is one of the best in the business. Everything is in color and detailed with 3D color coded CAD drawings. Many of the Japanese and Koreans are still using black and white drawings; they’re antiquated and lack detail.

The Transmission was burned up before I bought it...
Fluid was 4 quarts low and stinky..15k miles.
These are bad Transmissions. There are many class action lawsuits...yes I won't do it again.
BTW, the tuning fixes the transmission problems
Thanks

 

[FordTechOne]

The Transmission was burned up before I bought it...
Fluid was 4 quarts low and stinky..15k miles.
These are bad Transmissions. There are many class action lawsuits...yes I won't do it again.
BTW, the tuning fixes the transmission problems
Thanks

So you bought it used, with no idea how it was driven or treated by the PO, found the fluid low and burnt, and you then installed a tune to push even more power through an already damaged transmission? That makes no sense. A tune isn’t going to fix internal damage.

These are not “bad transmissions”; that is a baseless and ridiculous statement. These transmissions are in service in millions of vehicles, your used/damaged example does not represent the overall population. The class action lawsuit was already thrown out by a judge, it was frivolous litigation filed by ambulance chasing lawyers.

 

[Mikee Martin]

So you bought it used, with no idea how it was driven or treated by the PO, found the fluid low and burnt, and you then installed a tune to push even more power through an already damaged transmission? That makes no sense. A tune isn’t going to fix internal damage.

These are not “bad transmissions”; that is a baseless and ridiculous statement. These transmissions are in service in millions of vehicles, your used/damaged example does not represent the overall population. The class action lawsuit was already thrown out by a judge, it was frivolous litigation filed by ambulance chasing lawyers.

I apologize for my negativity. It was very frustrating to have my transmission fail at 20k miles. I love everything about the Raptor minus the electronics and transmission shifting. I got it back last week and have left it stock. Hopefully it can hang in there without being modified. It does work and shift a lot better with tuning. Thank You for your input. I have a long history of mechanical knowledge as a profession and usually have reliable vehicles over serviced. I wish Ford had a dipstick for the transmission like B and M makes.
Have a great day!