Whats with dealers only having 802a raptors and not more base models?

[Frank N]

Sure you could upgrade to a LS diff, but not for $500 that Ford charges. And for moving in sugar sand like I do in the least coast, a Torsen is perfect and as crawling in the sand, I just wanted afixed trans temp gauge.

I went 801 and opted for a few things I needed/wanted, it is a perfect fit for me and to each their own.

 

[troverman]

Well, there's a lot to the answers for all those questions. I have most of the parts so far and have started a build thread to detail each of these upgrades - http://www.fordraptorforum.com/f260/other-800a-owners-my-800a-build-thread-58519/ But, I think I can clarify some things easily.

For the Sync 3 8" upgrade, you can use the base unit amp. The 801As do the same. You can program it with FORScan. 4Dtech and OEMRadioSolutions charge that much for their kit because they did the hard part - making the harness, programming the APIM, and sourcing all the parts. If you source all the parts yourself, have some minor electrical DIY skills, and can do some basic changes in FORScan (super, super easy - "programming" is a much scarier word that what it actually involves), you can do it for much cheaper. Props to them for making a plug and play product, but I don't mind spending a couple hours to save a thousand or more. Many XL and XLT owners have done this upgrade on the F-150 forum without any issue with amps. Once I do mine, I'll post a full write-up.

Heated seats for $140 using the 2014 heating elements. They are the same as the 15+ but can be bought separately. The bezel I got for the 8" sync upgrades has the heated seat buttons populated. Again, a little DIY wiring and you're GTG.

These leather seats are going to be a piece of cake vs. the 69 Bronco seats I re-upholstered. Not much ring work since these are zippered covers.

There is an awesome member on another forum that sells the instrument clusters with the mileage and engine hours to match yours, pre-programmed to your VIN and plug and play. Many other non-raptor F-150s have done this upgrade. Pricing varies on what he can get the clusters at, so YMMV. I just wanted to post so others have a ballpark on how much this would run them.

I'm actually a fan of the windowless rear window. I've had a truck before and never really used it. I actually really like the rear window visibility without the vertical bars from the rear sliding window. If a passenger needs to access the bed while the truck is in motion, that's what the side steps are for, right?

BTW - love the lead foot. Such an awesome color. I couldn't find one and black matched my wife's car, so I went black to make her smile.

Good info. Sounds like you know what you're in for. As for the seats, you'll still have to do the rings on the seat centers, but that's not too bad.

 

[Nibbl3s]

Well, there's a lot to the answers for all those questions. I have most of the parts so far and have started a build thread to detail each of these upgrades - http://www.fordraptorforum.com/f260/other-800a-owners-my-800a-build-thread-58519/ But, I think I can clarify some things easily.

For the Sync 3 8" upgrade, you can use the base unit amp. The 801As do the same. You can program it with FORScan. 4Dtech and OEMRadioSolutions charge that much for their kit because they did the hard part - making the harness, programming the APIM, and sourcing all the parts. If you source all the parts yourself, have some minor electrical DIY skills, and can do some basic changes in FORScan (super, super easy - "programming" is a much scarier word that what it actually involves), you can do it for much cheaper. Props to them for making a plug and play product, but I don't mind spending a couple hours to save a thousand or more. Many XL and XLT owners have done this upgrade on the F-150 forum without any issue with amps. Once I do mine, I'll post a full write-up.

Heated seats for $140 using the 2014 heating elements. They are the same as the 15+ but can be bought separately. The bezel I got for the 8" sync upgrades has the heated seat buttons populated. Again, a little DIY wiring and you're GTG.

These leather seats are going to be a piece of cake vs. the 69 Bronco seats I re-upholstered. Not much ring work since these are zippered covers.

There is an awesome member on another forum that sells the instrument clusters with the mileage and engine hours to match yours, pre-programmed to your VIN and plug and play. Many other non-raptor F-150s have done this upgrade. Pricing varies on what he can get the clusters at, so YMMV. I just wanted to post so others have a ballpark on how much this would run them.

I'm actually a fan of the windowless rear window. I've had a truck before and never really used it. I actually really like the rear window visibility without the vertical bars from the rear sliding window. If a passenger needs to access the bed while the truck is in motion, that's what the side steps are for, right?

BTW - love the lead foot. Such an awesome color. I couldn't find one and black matched my wife's car, so I went black to make her smile.

Yea, no thanks. Would rather have a factory ready truck than rigging a 60k plus truck. Plus you still miss out on the little things 802 provides

 

[Talbor]

Yea, no thanks. Would rather have a factory ready truck than rigging a 60k plus truck. Plus you still miss out on the little things 802 provides

More power to you then. I'd rather save $10-15k and not have options I don't want, plus not pay a dealer mark-up. To each his own.

 

[MikeEby]

More power to you then. I'd rather save $10-15k and not have options I don't want, plus not pay a dealer mark-up. To each his own.

Exactly...It's your truck do what you want. When you consider 802A adds almost 20% to the cost of the truck, that's a bunch of dough in my book. The $2K stickers are the biggest rip which is pretty hard to find a truck in stock without them.

I'm not sure I would want to take on what your doing myself, I've have too many projects already, sounds like a fun though!

Mike

 

[Talbor]

Exactly...It's your truck do what you want. When you consider 802A adds almost 20% to the cost of the truck, that's a bunch of dough in my book. The $2K stickers are the biggest rip which is pretty hard to find a truck in stock without them.

I'm not sure I would want to take on what your doing myself, I've have too many projects already, sounds like a fun though!

Mike

I know, right? I personally don't like the stickers and it would have been hard to stomach peeling off $2k and throwing them away. I couldn't even find an 801A or 802A without them, but I wasn't using raptor finder.

I hear you on the overload of projects! But, most of the trailblazing has been done by the guys on the regular F-150 forum. If I dedicated a full weekend day to everything, I think I could knock it out. I'll be doing them one at a time over the next few weeks though - gotta finish my chores before I can have fun.