What's up with Gen 2 prices recently?

[tooloud10]

March, April, May last year was a sweet spot. Raptors are popular here but you could get one at invoice. Fast forward a year and conditions are totally different. Not a sweet spot. More like a bitter spot. So when you compare now and a year ago, it's not apples and oranges. More like apples and refrigerators. My prediction is that MY2021 will trickle out and the ADM will be high. So I think used prices will hold up. If I'm wrong and Ford ships 50,000 Raptors this year, it will flood the market and prices, new and used, will drop like a rock. But I think that would be both stupid and impossible, so I think we're pretty safe.

Totally agreed. Look at what is currently going on with regular '21 F150 production and tell me with a straight face that anyone thinks there's going to be a big glut of Raptors available at MSRP in the next year.

 

[DINOZR]

Was at my dealer this morning to drop off Raptor for routine maintenance. They probably had 1/3 of the cars on their lot that they had 2 months ago when I was there. It was crazy how sparse their lot was.

 

[BC119]

There is no “much improved” V6, it’s the same engine as the current Raptor with a bump in compression ratio and an equal length exhaust. So far they’ve only indicated it will be tuned for more torque; power increase, if any, is unknown. The R model will have little to no effect on Gen 2 prices, it’s in a completely different price bracket. Most likely starting around $90k and going up from there.

Updated cam phasers makes it "much improved."

 

[FordTechOne]

Updated cam phasers makes it "much improved."

The updated parts have been in production since 10/19 for 2019 & 2020 models, so that’s carry over.

 

[BC119]

The updated parts have been in production since 10/19 for 2019 & 2020 models, so that’s carry over.

I'm just giving you a hard time. I'm an unlucky one with a 10/19 build date on my '20 and no good cam phasers.

 

[Yoshi]

I've been in the market for a Gen 2 Raptor for a few months now, but these prices are absolutely ridiculous. What the cause of these 2017s with 30k-50k miles going for 2020 prices (75k) and dealers not budging?

My 18 sticker was 72k paid 65k new. Might sell it. Only 9k miles all options but beadlocks.

I understand that theres a pause right now with the new Gen 3 being introduced, but if you guys had to guess, when will these prices die down a bit and go back to reasonable for year/milage. My buddy got his 2018 for 3k under MSRP brand new at a dealership and its fully loaded, but now it seems every 801a package with 50k miles is going for 70k lol.

I wish i would've jumped on a brand new one pre covid, would've been cheaper than they are now

 

[Herk91]

And I’ll have to disagree that Raptors haven't lost value over the past couple of years. I sold mine for less than I paid for it and therefore it had lost value. I also know CarMax sold it for less than I paid for mine in April of 2019, and I paid under MSRP. But you’re exactly right about supply and demand, and the supply will be dictated upon the number of Raptor owners who decide to jump to the 21... whenever that’ll be. I’m sticking with my opinion that the market will get somewhat flooded when the new Raptor comes out, and as everyone has already said, supply and demand. But hey, I’m still a sucker for a good deal so I’m looking now.

https://camerasource.com/blog/the-ultimate-list-of-ford-raptor-depreciation-rates/

here ya go. You evidently didn’t get the best deal possible. And yes....I was right. Keep looking.

 

[Herk91]

When Gen 3 base and R’s drop so will your pocket books. I suspect a nice price increase from Ford. Let alone ADM’s. So the earlier Gen’s should benefit from this and may look like bargains in comparison.

I think the later Gen 1’s will hold their value due to the 6.2L

 

[dc1gator]

Something smells fishy about that deal.

 

[JohnC12]

https://camerasource.com/blog/the-ultimate-list-of-ford-raptor-depreciation-rates/

here ya go. You evidently didn’t get the best deal possible. And yes....I was right. Keep looking.

Personally, I’m not one who has to always be right... clearly you’re different, but I respect that.

So the very first sentence of the article you linked says it all “...the Raptor depreciates at a significantly lower rate.” Did the author get that wrong too? Should it have said Raptors don’t depreciate at all? I don’t think so. I agree that Raptors depreciate lower than any other truck in America, but they do depreciate. Here’s a post I made awhile back comparing depreciation values against other brands.

https://www.fordraptorforum.com/threads/2019-depreciation.73151/page-2#post-1428675

But all in all, your original comment that Raptors have not lost any value is simply incorrect.

I’ll will stroke your ego for a second and say that you’re correct in that a dealer can potentially list a 2019 for same price it originally listed it for a year ago. But I’ll challenge you to go sell your Raptor privately, or better yet, go trade it in. Your opinion that Raptors don’t lose any value will change pretty darn quickly. Remember - your vehicles value is only what someone is willing to buy it for - not the selling price value at a stealership.

Lastly, your opinion that I got a bad deal is simply that, your opinion. I think I got a great deal when I bought it... I paid well under MSRP. Could I have picked up more money had I sold it privately, you bet, but never the same money for what I paid for the truck.