Uh crap. Wheel hub blew out (Integrated Wheel End, IWE)

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Dubbs, I don't think anybody is saying don't do this or that or whatever. I think it's just if you have the possibility. Especially when warranty is over.

I'm not gonna go out of my way to lose momentum to shift to 4x4. But if I'm about to cross a really muddy field or something i know will need 4WD, I will bring it to a stop and shift then tear ass through there.

Oh and I don't blame you, I'm not going to sit there and worry about if everything I'm doing is prolonging the truck life.
 
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Point is, I know there are things we can do to minimize wear and damage, but I just dont see the point in worrying about it if it is covered under warranty. The truck has shift on the fly capaability, and the manual does not say you shouldnt do it, therefore, shouldnt we be able to do it without worry or fear?
Sure, of course! In theory... But then there's reality. Like 'stoner said, when we're 100miles 'out there', far far away from anyone and anything, and something like this breaks, that's not a good thing. There is no 'dealer' to call or manual to check. See what I mean? If something as simple as stopping to shift (something we all do anyway, since you can't go into ORM without being <5mph), then why not? And having 2 master techs suggest it as a sound preventative step? There might just be something to it.

But hey, Im the kind of guy that breaks it, and if I cant fix it, time for an upgrade...
Totally agreed there. I think I even asked about upgraded parts in this thread. The answer came back as 'no', stock is it for now. Hopefully the aftermarket catches up someday.

The other side of this is that you seemed to be really trying hard to figure out what is wrong, and I just dont have the time for that kind of stuff, as much as I would like to to tinker, there is no way I can find the time.
Fair enough. And that kinda goes back to my original honest question: if you don't have the time, why are you reading a thread that's all about tinkering and discovery? Why take the time to comment? Your comments feel kinda weird, especially when you back them up by saying you have no time for any of this stuff. The logical question for the rest of us to ask is 'uh well then why are you in this thread, since you don't have time for it...?' See what I mean? Almost seems like your comments are aimed at putting the rest of us down, for trying to take the time and learn. I'm sure that's not at all what you meant, but that's how it sort of came off. To me, at least.

As for 'why' I make the time for this stuff? Again, when I'm 'out there' *** miles away from anyone, I want to know whats happening with my truck. My lifeline home. The thing I'm trusting to get me and my family back to civilization safely. There was another example where my truck went haywire on me, but unlike this time, that time I *was* out there. Or, at least, almost out there. See here: http://www.fordraptorforum.com/f5/freak-accident-weakness-found-wheel-speed-sensor-7345/

The result of that? Again I learned what to look for should it happen again, and in that case the aftermarket did step up and produce a solution to prevent it in the first place (see here: http://www.fordraptorforum.com/f38/new-product-abs-sensor-shield-688/). Yeah my few days of being stranded sucked, but in the end I think lots of people benefited from it so it I think it evens out.

Bottom line is if this happens in a situation where I need to rely on myself to get me home, I now know how to do at least a first level troubleshoot, and I now know that I can leave her in 4x4 all the way out, and she'll carry me home safely. That's some good powerful knowledge, well worth the time its taken to uncover it.

All that make sense? Its not about worrying over this or that. Its about arming yourself with knowledge as the opportunities present themselves, so that you're better prepared to handle situations as they arise.
 
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I had a situation over the weekend with this exact issue. From reading this thread I knew exactly what the noise was. Checked the vacuum lines, found the cracks, patched the lines and was still able to drive my truck and enjoy myself. If i didn't have this info I would have had my truck towed to a Ford dealership on Saturday and missed an awesome trip on Sunday. I don't have the time to send my truck to the dealer and have them trouble shoot something and miss out on driving my truck!! Now all I have to do is wait for the replacement lines to come in and take the time to install them. A lot better than having my truck at the dealer for a few day IMO. Thanks for the info Big J!!
 
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^^Wow awesome B! Great to hear you figured it out!

What'd you use to patch 'er up? I was thinking a quick wipedown with Windex (hah!) and some trusty duct tape would probably do the trick?
 

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Don't forget the zip ties!!! :crazy:

I used some vacuum tubing a little larger in diameter and cut out the broken part. You might want to check all your lines mine were extremely brittle. Broke a few spots just pulling on them when I was pulling them for the upper arms.
 
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Huh. Ok, will do. Supposedly they checked all that, but we'll see. Thanks for the heads up.
 

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Don't forget the zip ties!!! :crazy:

I used some vacuum tubing a little larger in diameter and cut out the broken part. You might want to check all your lines mine were extremely brittle. Broke a few spots just pulling on them when I was pulling them for the upper arms.

Sounds like some good items to keep stocked in everyone's tool kit. What size hose did you use?

I hate it that automakers use plastic for vacuum lines. They always get brittle and break.
 

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Don't forget the zip ties!!! :crazy:

I used some vacuum tubing a little larger in diameter and cut out the broken part. You might want to check all your lines mine were extremely brittle. Broke a few spots just pulling on them when I was pulling them for the upper arms.

Where did you find all of your cracked lines? Passenger side upper arm or drive. I know the 08-older liked to get brittle and crack on the passenger side frame rail where they come down or right at the knuckle unless somone was tinkering. 09- current I would think they would get brittle and crack in the same areas but they may have moved the lines since then. I haven't seen many fail especially on new ones but I know they didn't change the material so it was just a matter of time. Did you order the whold vacuum line set.?
 

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It was drivers side behind the arm. I was probably a little too rough when I was pulling on them to install my upper arm. I did order the whole set. Figured it's probably best to replace everything and make it all new while I'm messing with it.
 
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