Took delivery….things have gone terribly wrong

[1BAD454SSv2]

I should preface that this is not a Ford dealership, and they specifically requested to have me not take it to a Ford dealership as they thought they would try to rip them off in labor and diagnostics

Ahh I see.

 

[TomDirt]

perhaps.. but its def coming from the top down in an engine off situation..

I found this video of a valve seal replacement on a 2011-2021 6.2L engine.

Yeah, that doesn't look like fun at all. Too many chances to drop a valve, and then you gotta remove the head... and that means a very high probability of snapping bolts

 

[someday]

I could see valve seals causing the smoke on start up but not a smoke show. Rings could be causing the low compression. These engines are pretty bullet proof. Need a better explaination of diagnosis and or better diagnosis

Id like to see video of smoke and compression test conditions (hot, cold, wet, dry) with psi numbers

 

[New recaros]

I should preface that this is not a Ford dealership, and they specifically requested to have me not take it to a Ford dealership as they thought they would try to rip them off in labor and diagnostics

You should take the VIN to a Ford dealer and look up the service records.
I bet this dealer put a couple cans of magic in the oil.

 

[FiveOsvt]

You should take the VIN to a Ford dealer and look up the service records.
I bet this dealer put a couple cans of magic in the oil.

it’s possible but it’s not a head gasket issue so not sure what they could put in it to mask a valve seals/piston ring issue, whatever it was didn’t work well considering it only took about 1.5 hours to present itself. I wish I had the time and energy to deal with the problem but I just refuse to in this case. If I purchased a the truck for $16k with 280,000 miles I would, but not after spending almost $45k to get this one.

 

[John813]

The owner of the dealership said they drove that truck for 500-800 miles before they listed it, I highly doubt they didn’t experience the chimney smoke show from the exhaust. Not to mention as I walked with the salesman to go look at the truck he told me to just wait and he would bring the truck over to me. I don’t think that was a coincidence.

Probably not.
I get bored every few years with vehicles, so I trade in a lot. Always want to see the vehicle at cold start. Best indication of it's condition, especially for used ones.

Shame about that Gen 1, was a clean one.

I'm waiting for my old one to go back up for sale.

 

[New recaros]

it’s possible but it’s not a head gasket issue so not sure what they could put in it to mask a valve seals/piston ring issue, whatever it was didn’t work well considering it only took about 1.5 hours to present itself. I wish I had the time and energy to deal with the problem but I just refuse to in this case. If I purchased a the truck for $16k with 280,000 miles I would, but not after spending almost $45k to get this one.

 

[Justbob]

@FiveOsvt if you could post the VIN here before you return the truck, at least someone doing a Google search could come across this before buying it next. I am sure the dealer won’t do a CarFax report on the repairs and they could simply try to dump it again. At the right price, this would seem to be a great opportunity to pull the engine, rebuild and add all the right “goodies” like SC, headers, etc. to have a legit low milage beast for life. ​

 

[Five-O Donut Hole]

Had to bring back the OG photo, feels good

Admin…I’d like to file a partial copyright infringement on the OP’s forum name.

That’s too bad a low mileage beast like this would have those kind of issues.

 

[Cookie_Monster]

Sorry about the issue you've had. If it makes you feel better I bought a 2014 with 108k a little over 2 years ago and it ran great for a year and a half before it didn't. Even though Carfax showed it had been serviced at a Ford dealer, there was a 3-year 63k gap in service. Looks like the oil had not been changed during that time (which I didn't know). It turned into cooked oil about the consistency of coffee grounds. Even though I was doing full synthetic oil changes, the coffee grounds eventually broke loose and clogged the oil pickup = no oil pressure = new engine. You cannot buy a new 6.2 these days. They stopped making them in 2022. I was able to find a remanufactured engine and had a local guy swap it. I'm all in for about $8k on the swap. Glad you were lucky enough to get your old truck back. Don;t sweat it too much, it happens. If you can find a Gen 1 from an individual who kept records that would be best.