Time for tires. ATZ P3s or Ridge Grapplers?

[EricM]

Looking for a more aggressive tread pattern than the defacto KO2s.

It seems like the Mickey Thompson ATZ P3s have great reviews- I've not seen any real complaints about them. I can get 4 in the stock size shipped for $1100 from Tirebuyer.com.

Ridge grapplers seem to be a similar hybrid MT/AT type tire. My only experience with Nitto tires was very brief and on a car, but they totally sucked ass- so I'm a bit gun shy to spend $300+ each on the new Nittos.

Has anyone ran both? Should I just save the $200 and go with the ATZ P3s? Any other tires I'm leaving out? What say you FRF?

 

[Hamm3r]

Never run the Ridge Grapplers, but I did have the Terra Grapplers on my Silverado. They're equivalent to the KO2, in my opinion. I loved them, they were tough, they performed wonderfully in snow/ice on the road. They had 40k miles on them when I traded the truck, and I was expecting another 15-20k out of them.

They struggled in mushy/muddy terrain because they couldn't clean themselves...but they weren't designed for that.

I *almost* bought the Ridge Grapplers for my Raptor when I got it, but decided to go KO2 simply because I wanted to try a different brand for a while.

 

[waddellw]

I have Terra grappler G2's now. In my opinion they are fine for dirt and roads but suffer in mud and heavier sand. I have had trail grapplers, personally my favorite tire so far.

My only experience with Mickey Thompson's have been with Baja Claws on my raptor and Baja ATZ (I think that's the name) on my f250. On the f250 they ran fine for a while and ended up started to shake even with routine balancing and rotation. Ended up getting the death wobble and selling the 250.

The Baja claws on my raptor were INSANE off-road. But they also suffered from an inability to balance. It got to the point where they would throw the weights off the wheels and destroy themselves. I regularly balanced and rotated every 3,000 miles.


If you want a road tire that's OK off-road. Go for something like the G2.

If you want an off-road tire that's good on the road. Go for the trail grapplers for mud/dirt/some sand.

Can't fully speak for the ridge grapplers but I do believe they are more closely related to the G2s.

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All of my tires have been run roughly as they should be on a raptor and all ended up lasting around 20k each.

0-22k
BFG KO ***
22k-48k
Trail grapplers *****
48k-70k (taken off early due to risk of harming my truck)
Baja claws. * (One star due to their balancing issues and ending up being unusable. I wish Mickey Thompson would stand by their product and offer a fix. I called and got nowhere.)
70k-84k (current)
Terra grappler G2's ***

G2s and BFG KO about equal.

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[Enigma94]

I have the Ridge Grapplers on methods and I absolutely love them! Coming from severely worn and cupped stock BFGs to these made a huge ride improvement. They're not loud at all, smooth highway driving and haven't had any issues in mud/snow/ice/rain. I've had them on the truck for around 3k miles.

 

[EricM]

I have the Ridge Grapplers on methods and I absolutely love them! Coming from severely worn and cupped stock BFGs to these made a huge ride improvement. They're not loud at all, smooth highway driving and haven't had any issues in mud/snow/ice/rain. I've had them on the truck for around 3k miles.

I went with the Ridge Grapplers. Same experience as you, my BFGs were worn at 49K miles and had some minor cupping issues. The Nittos are much smoother and quieter than the worn KOs. They are nearly silent at all speeds, if the radio is on you don't hear a thing from the tires.

I've noticed they are a bit harsher over small sharp bumps, probably due to the load range E vs the KOs D rating. However the BFGs almost felt like they vibrated or "rang" for a split second after hitting those types of bumps. The Nittos are a more solid feeling hit, and do not have that same feeling after hitting it. I notice that because our street has the typical subdivision "inverted speed bumps" from where the sanitary and water laterals were installed after the mass earthwork was completed. They can never backfill those trenches correctly without settlement.

Good to hear they are decent in rain, snow and ice, we get our fair share of all of that around here. Let's hope they don't go to crap over the long term. I'll have to try to remember to rotate these often, but it's a bit of a chore! It's a good time to clean stuff up and fight rust though.

Ended up with AE Alloy 012s 17x9 +8 wheels in matte grey. Some crappy cell phone pics below. I need to put my skidplates back on!