Throttle body spacer

[bstoner59]

so...you're saying there's a chance it may work!!

 

[BIRDMAN]

so...you're saying there's a chance it may work!!

 

[Squatting Dog]

Yeah, and they are coming out with an eco boost Raptor in 2013..

-Greg

 

[onesickpuppy]

99.9999999% sure, so there is a chance!

 

[Kowboy17]

Not sure how "vortexing" air that then needs to then travel down a rail would still be "vortexed"!

 

[Deinonychus]

The idea behind these devices is they create turbulence and, turbulent air does not allow the fuel to pool around the ports. One reason when you polish heads and intake you need to make sure there is still enough turbulence to remove the fuel from the corners on the system. So, with these new plastic intakes being so smooth they will tell you that you need this vortex these things create to pull all the fuel so the engine can use it all giving you more HP and TQ......
But the heads are not polished so you have enough to stop the fuel from pooling.
One side effect of polishing the heads and intake is you will lose TQ more than HP.. But, with this 6 speed and the new 8 speeds the TQ is available so fast its not a big deal...

Considering the pass of the intake air, it would be anything but laminar flow. The tube isn't smooth and even it it was smooth, as soon as it enters the intake manifold it becomes very turbulent.

Example: A differential flow measuring device requires 10 pipe diameters of straight pipe before the device and 5 pipe diameters after the device to get a flow laminar enough to consider the differential representative of the flow rate. These constraints are similar for most all flow measuring devices.

I'd like to see a smoke flow in a glass intake manifold that equates to that of the Raptor. I'd bet there would be plenty of turbulence.

On the other hand throttle body spacers are cheap. What can it hurt? It's only money. And if you want to believe, well... there you go; an inexpensive performance mod.

Easy enough to do a before and after on a dyno, but then the expense increases more that the cost of the spacer.

 

[SwampKing]

The idea behind these devices is they create turbulence and, turbulent air does not allow the fuel to pool around the ports. One reason when you polish heads and intake you need to make sure there is still enough turbulence to remove the fuel from the corners on the system. So, with these new plastic intakes being so smooth they will tell you that you need this vortex these things create to pull all the fuel so the engine can use it all giving you more HP and TQ......
But the heads are not polished so you have enough to stop the fuel from pooling.
One side effect of polishing the heads and intake is you will lose TQ more than HP.. But, with this 6 speed and the new 8 speeds the TQ is available so fast its not a big deal...

New 8 speeds?!

 

[imdubious]

Considering the pass of the intake air, it would be anything but laminar flow. The tube isn't smooth and even it it was smooth, as soon as it enters the intake manifold it becomes very turbulent.

Example: A differential flow measuring device requires 10 pipe diameters of straight pipe before the device and 5 pipe diameters after the device to get a flow laminar enough to consider the differential representative of the flow rate. These constraints are similar for most all flow measuring devices.

I'd like to see a smoke flow in a glass intake manifold that equates to that of the Raptor. I'd bet there would be plenty of turbulence.

On the other hand throttle body spacers are cheap. What can it hurt? It's only money. And if you want to believe, well... there you go; an inexpensive performance mod.

Easy enough to do a before and after on a dyno, but then the expense increases more that the cost of the spacer.

Sounds like your in natural gas measurement or at least some type or pl measurement.


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[Ruger]

Now let's discuss the other end of things - the "turbo muffler." You've heard of them. They have no moving parts - no turbo, no impeller, nothing at all that warrants the use of the term, they barely muffle at all, and although great claims are made for performance, economy, and the magic ability to attract girls (only attractive ones, mind you) like a magnet attracts iron, all they really do is attract the attention of the law enforcement community.

And people buy them. Proof positive that suckers will buy anything. Pet Rock anyone? Chia Pet? Cabbage Patch Doll? How about a Magic Bra?

 

[Red]

I love my magic bra