You’re lucky. You “came from very little offroad experience” and you “WAY over drove (your) driving ability and (your) truck paid the price.” You’re lucky you and other people didn’t also pay a price (it’s easy for a 6,000 lb. truck to cause bodily harm when it's being driven by a newbie off road and there's a driver mistake or the truck has a mechanical issue).
While you know you’re going to break your truck and you see that as “part of the fun,” there are many who don’t want to break theirs and don’t think that it’s fun when they do.
I don’t think the article said the vendor “would purposely try and lead people on a path to break their trucks.” I don’t believe the article ever said that was their intent.
IMO, running organized off road events is not the best time to have “learning experiences.” There’s a huge amount of risk involved for equipment and people and it’s not the type of event that newbies, new to running off road events for newbies driving off road in $50,000 trucks should (IMO) be involved in. You’re all very lucky things didn’t go really bad.
Good point about personal accountability.
The owners/drivers of the Raptors certainly should take the blame for their mistakes in judgement and driving.
But personal accountability also comes into play for the organizers of events – not just owners & drivers.
Ok, I don't like talking to someone like this when I have yet to meet them in real life and I'm sure you're a pretty nice guy . I hope you don't take this personally. But would you please shut the **** up? You've never been on any of these runs.
The organizers of these runs go to pain staking lengths to organize runs and they are the perfect learning opportunity. How else should people learn? Go drive in circles at Ocotillo Wells? That's not a bad spot to get your feet wet. But the truth is you can't learn or get the experience necessary without actually going on a "run". It's the responsibility of the driver to take it easy as they develop their skills.
I know for a fact all these runs have safety meetings where drivers are explicitly told to drive within their limits and to take it easy. It's up to the individual to take that advice from there.
And as someone who organizes runs, your comments are beyond annoying. I've spent thousands of dollars on fuel and damage while prerunning. It would be much easier (less responsible) to just plot a route and go. However, I feel great personal responsibility to mitigate risk if I'm going to lead a group of people into the middle of nowhere but there's only so much I can do. However, I don't have any responsibility if someone decides to push it and something goes wrong for them.
Furthermore, it would be much easier and less headache to keep these runs private. Despite what you may think, it's not all fun and games taking out people who have very little offroad experience. It's also rewarding seeing people's faces after finally being able to use their Raptor as it was designed.
Your comments and those like yours, make me (and I suspect others) want to keep these runs private and not deal with this ********.
BTW, do you do anything besides complain?
For one, you seem to imply that I wrote this - I did not. I simply quoted the article. All other press discussing this has been posted on FRF, why should this one not be? Simply because a few disagree with the message?
Fine with me that you posted it. It allows those who actually were part of the Outlaw run shed some light on the B.S.
