The FRF Shock Shootout! All pre event details and discussion here

[BlueSVT]

This should all be a non issue.

Properly set up the test course, and all of these "what it's" are a waste of time. You will not have any frame benders on a properly setup, pre-run course, with established guidelines.

/Arguement

 

[BigJ]

Right, and I am saying a Delrin strike pad vs axle strike plate should not be considered a feasible alternative because Delrin will not deform and at the end of the day it's really no better than metal on metal...not that we want that either.

I think something is getting lost in translation here. Rather than belabor the point further, I'll make the call and say if we end up with a truck and after market stops, those stops will be left in place and aired down to zero assuming the truck's owner is on board with that plan.

In Icon's post they said something to the degree that airing down the bump would be equivalent to having no bump and that you would be much better off using OEM bumps. From what I understand to be fair to Icon and the test results all three sets of shocks would have to be run using factory bumps and factory springs. Frame bracing not a problem.

I understand your concern. The test will be fair for all who participate.

Not much of an impulse change between delrin and metal bump pad. Both are going to hit pretty hard when slammed into the strike pad. I still believe opening up the bump and limiting the travel is a better option. Limit travel (about 1 1/2 ish inch) to what the factory bump stop would have so that the point of contact when the suspension compresses is the same as what the factory set up would do. This would give the shocks the most room to work with while emulating the factory set up. Completely removing the bumps would be a disaster resulting in a bunch of damaged shocks.

That's not a bad idea. Lots will depend on the loaner truck, for sure.

This should all be a non issue.

Properly set up the test course, and all of these "what it's" are a waste of time. You will not have any frame benders on a properly setup, pre-run course, with established guidelines.

/Arguement

If you're unhappy with this discussion, click the little X in the upper right corner. Otherwise, please feel free to contribute. But either way, enough already with the 'waste of time' talk. None of this has been a waste of time.

 

[BlueSVT]

Can you address my post at least? Do you not agree? This testing is completely controllable... So the risk of damaging the loaner truck should be VERY low, aside from driver error.

 

[Raptizzle]

This should all be a non issue.

Properly set up the test course, and all of these "what it's" are a waste of time. You will not have any frame benders on a properly setup, pre-run course, with established guidelines.

/Arguement

What if the course is a non issue at 60MPH but at 80MPH it takes new shape... Not worth the risk IMO.

 

[BigJ]

Can you address my post at least? Do you not agree? This testing is completely controllable... So the risk of damaging the loaner truck should be VERY low, aside from driver error.

No "in the field" testing is completely controllable. Mechanical systems fail. No driver is perfect.

If beating these issues to death helps minimize the effects of an issue, even a "very low" probability issue, then the time was far from wasted.

 

[pat'sRAPTOR]

We all have our idea and I know J is trying hard to put then all together but I believe what both j and icon are saying is right on. Icon says it's best to test with factory bumps on and J agreed with that ad long as the loaner truck has the factory bumps and not an after market bump kit. But if they do and say we only
En up with 2 trucks lets hope one has factory bumps and one has aftermarket bumps this way we can expand the test a little and see what we come up with. This way we can give more feedback and options to the average joe, if we get more than one truck that is but in gonna guess for now we might only get one! It sucks cause if I still live in Cali my truck would be the first one offered.

Bird, I think you're right the pads on the RPG setup I know is a delrin bushing and is pretty damn hard. I'm sure Corey or Jarrett can confirm or deny that.

Icon makes a great point about te bumps being set to zero as well. So say we only have 5 or 10 psi in them? I think that would be sufficient enough to offer the same protection the stock rubber bumps would offer right? Again I'm going with J on this one and agree with him when he says that if and when we get a truck it's most likely gonna have a bump kit on it.

 

[BlueSVT]

What if the course is a non issue at 60MPH but at 80MPH it takes new shape... Not worth the risk IMO.

That I agree with... I would just hope the guidelines the drivers are given are actually followed. But people do get excited, and become absent minded when they get excited, haha.

 

[pat'sRAPTOR]

That I agree with... I would just hope the guidelines the drivers are given are actually followed. But people do get excited, and become absent minded when they get excited, haha.

This is so very true I've caught myself a few times getting a little out control haha but I'm sure J would interview them all and picked who he thinks will stay within those guidelines and I think that's why he's picking a few for each class so if say the beginner driver just can't control himself he's booted an the next driver takes over and we restart the test.

Of course given fair warning before we boot the non cooperative driver just to be fair lol

 

[BigJ]

This is so very true I've caught myself a few times getting a little out control haha but I'm sure J would interview them all and picked who he thinks will stay within those guidelines and I think that's why he's picking a few for each class so if say the beginner driver just can't control himself he's booted an the next driver takes over and we restart the test.

Of course given fair warning before we boot the non cooperative driver just to be fair lol

Nah, nothing so complicated. I just plan to use a remote operated Tazer.

 

[pat'sRAPTOR]

Sweet I have a few high HIGH strength tazers you could use! we should put a limiter on the throttle so they can't go over 60! Haha