Tesla Cybertruck

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Another thing regarding safety. How are they going to design in a crumple zone?

Agreed. My guess is that this truck will go through a ton of "revisions" and that this is more a marketing stunt to take the wind out of Ford's Mach-E announcement. Also based on the rumors on the Bronco forums the Electric F150 will be out by 2022 as well and if it can pull those train cars I can't wait to see what the specs are on it.
 

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That was only 1.5 million pounds on street radials lol

I’m sure the Ford people weren’t happy, but found it amusing when the Cybertruck yanked there F-150 up the road.

There shall be battles to come I can only imagine.
 

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That was only 1.5 million pounds on street radials lol

I’m sure the Ford people weren’t happy, but found it amusing when the Cybertruck yanked there F-150 up the road.

There shall be battles to come I can only imagine.


Yea that drag was such a bunch of BS. All that shows is how heavy the Cybertruck is. To make things worst the F150 was in RWD, and the Tesla was moving first.
 

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Agreed. My guess is that this truck will go through a ton of "revisions" and that this is more a marketing stunt to take the wind out of Ford's Mach-E announcement.

The stunt will backfire if the cyber is significantly different that what was announced. They can't really change the styling, body, or glass to something less unusual without it being called out as a stunt. They could have done a stunt if they made less of a big deal, didn't let the media test drive, etc, but not now. If it were up to me, I'd would smooth out the edges a bit and give it a couple feet of flat top. It will still be unusual.

And there really isn't a need to change much, assuming it passes safety standard and comes close to the announced specs. Enough people are going to buy in on image alone for at least 3 years after production, and then they can go with a more traditional styled truck. Musk has said as much. Really, they don't even have to wait 5 years, there is enough room in the market for two styles of Tesla truck. People will buy the cyber truck based on performance and quirkiness alone, mostly from people who own a truck now or don't have much expectations from a truck...plenty of those.

The thing is growing on me a bit. I'm not going to buy it, but I have some respect for it now.


One thing that I think is incorrect is the statement that trucks haven't changed much in a 100 years. There have been some oddballs in there from time to time, but they've never lasted, or just were never really thought of as trucks. There's the baja outback, el camino's, avalanche, explorer sport trac, etc, all variations on truck beds. And everyone still goes back to the main overall truck design. Also worth noting that truck designs, and automobile designs in general, have always been limited by the need for an internal combustion engine.
 

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The stunt will backfire if the cyber is significantly different that what was announced. They can't really change the styling, body, or glass to something less unusual without it being called out as a stunt. They could have done a stunt if they made less of a big deal, didn't let the media test drive, etc, but not now. If it were up to me, I'd would smooth out the edges a bit and give it a couple feet of flat top. It will still be unusual.

On a Q&A with Elon, he said the edges are there because the SS they are using was 300x stronger than standard and that the presses would break trying to stamp in other shapes. How real that is I do not know. I could see this being an issue for other vehicles that share the road with the truck and I don't see how any crumple zones can exist if that is true.

Also, the vehicle doesn't really have functional lights or mirrors and doesn't even have a real steering wheel. To me its the same as a driving concept car that most OEM show and then, later on, have a similar look but are much different.




Also worth noting that truck designs, and automobile designs in general, have always been limited by the need for an internal combustion engine.

100% I'm surprised that it still has any hood as you would think that they would want to move the cab forward as much as possible to create as much utility as possible in the back.
 

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The truck has some worthy ideas and implementations, that is for sure. Most of the specs look very good if they can deliver on them. Many features of the truck seemed very pre production prototypey. Will that lighting work? Rear views? Formula one steering wheels for Porsche like handling? Lower profile off road custom tires as they looked. Can that air suspension do on road and off road equally as good and is it a system nobody has created before? Just a lot to deliver on. Still make a profit, and be able to mass produce.

This vehicle definitely sounded like more of a pet project and a dream vehicle than what would I have expected in something to take over the truck world over night for the masses. Who knows where it will go, but he did disrupt and that’s his. Trademark.
 

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100% I'm surprised that it still has any hood as you would think that they would want to move the cab forward as much as possible to create as much utility as possible in the back.

Yea, I've thought about that a bit too. There's a couple reasons why don't think this has bee done yet.

- People are used to having some body in front of them. It gives a sense of comfort to be a few feet back.
- The wheel wells would take out some of the cabin space.
- The front body is supposed to take the blunt of the force in a front end collision. Can't do that if there's not much body.
- Not good aerodynamics.
- The 'Frunk' is somewhat of a novelty. I have no doubt that Tesla owners like to puts things in/out of the frunk while in public whenever possible.

Even current rear engine vehicles do not have the cabin space pushed forward all the way. Although some large commercial trucks do, and there has been vans in the past that have pushed the cabin forward like that.

I do think we'' start seeing vehicles with much shorter front ends in a decade or so, will just take some time.
 
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