Stock Wheels and aftermarket UCA's

[Deleted member 12951]

@RDFTS do tell who's those are?

I finally got a chance to measure the back spacing on the stock beadlock rim. It was 6 1/4 inches. I am not sure how that compares to the stock non beadlock rim.

I was told the stock wheel has a -34mm offset. I don't know if there is a difference between different stock wheels though. How do you properly measure it or any specs online somewhere?

 

[SlimChaChi]

I was told the stock wheel has a -34mm offset. I don't know if there is a difference between different stock wheels though. How do you properly measure it or any specs online somewhere?

found this, not sure if that helps, i would imagine they are the same wheel...

https://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=22820

 

[Deleted member 12951]

Well if I am understanding this correctly, 156.6mm is 6.17" and 34mm is 1.34". ICON's website states you need 5" backspace. So with even a 1/4" spacer you would still be 1" off. There is no way I would put a 1.5" spacer on so that pretty much answers my questions. Darn because I really wanted to keep it as I look at the unopened box everyday since it arrived.

 

[SlimChaChi]

Well if I am understanding this correctly, 156.6mm is 6.17" and 34mm is 1.34". ICON's website states you need 5" backspace. So with even a 1/4" spacer you would still be 1" off. There is no way I would put a 1.5" spacer on so that pretty much answers my questions. Darn because I really wanted to keep it as I look at the unopened box everyday since it arrived.

I hear ya man, they are pretty sweet...i guess it's a trade off, i chose the UCAs over the beadlocks...sometimes i regret it, most days, i don't even remember having them on. i think the same would hold true if you went with the UCAs you posted up...eventually you wont' even know the difference.

 

[OrangeAddict]

found this, not sure if that helps, i would imagine they are the same wheel...



https://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=22820

That adds up to the same that I measured. I am sure I easily could have been off by .08" in my measurement.

 

[Deleted member 12951]

Well it looks like they posted up an article on their website today and if you look close, you can see the adjustable UCA. Yes, that adjustable UCA that will work with stock wheels, is Rogue Racing. I did ask if they are going to be making a cap for the uniball and hope that when I get mine shipped next week that if they do, it can be retro-fitted on it.

Rogue Racing Innovative Off-Road Suspension, Parts & Accessories

 

[Deleted member 12951]

I was told that the Rogue one is adjustable on the truck like the ICON's. Looking at the pictures, it was puzzling how this can be. I was told once the screws are loosened, then it releases enough thread that it can be pulled out. This seems like a bad design so I decided to call Rogue directly and talk to Ryan.

This new adjustable UCA needs to be removed from the uppers, screws loosened and then you can dial it "in our out" to adjust and re-tighten screws and install. He said it might take about 2-3 alignments to get it dialed it correctly but once you do that, you should to good. They also sell a delete kit to center the LCA bolts so alignments are done from the UCA instead. You don't have to worry about the lower bolts moving now as this kit keeps them in-place. Wasn't going to mess with that right now as I don't know how Firestone would treat that type of alignment as it seems more involved to be covered on their Lifetime plan.

I asked about how ICON is adjustable on the truck without removing. He said to talk to anyone who actually tried to adjust it while it was on the truck and see what they say. Sounds like it isn't as easy as it seems....

Hopefully it will ship out tomorrow so I can get this installed soon.

 

[SDHQJASON]

We have installed Icon Billet uppers on trucks with stock wheels and tires without an issue. When you go to a larger tire, like a 35x12.50, they will rub the upper arm.

 

[Deleted member 12951]

We have installed Icon Billet uppers on trucks with stock wheels and tires without an issue. When you go to a larger tire, like a 35x12.50, they will rub the upper arm.

Interesting, ICON themselves are stating they will rub. Not sure who to believe anymore.

Is it difficult to adjust the ICON when on the truck?

 

[SlimChaChi]

Interesting, ICON themselves are stating they will rub. Not sure who to believe anymore.

Is it difficult to adjust the ICON when on the truck?

I was told the same by Icon along with multiple other installers.