Stock 6.2 camshaft specs

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well i just thought if the head porting was as bas as you said you could post some pics for the rest of us is all

Not even remotely in the ballpark of what I said. I said it looks like you rammed a dremel in them... and yep,
it looks like porting lol. Not the basis of anything I have said. Re-read... or don't... I don't care lol..

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I did want to give some further insight into this. Honestly, we don't release specs for anything anymore because we spend a lot of time on the R+D side of things. By releasing our specs it does 2 things. #1 gives our competition their target point. By posting this it would have been gifted to them for free. They didn't spend the time developing any of these upgrades. We did. #2 the only discussion that ever comes from it are the people that think it should be done differently than we set them up. Mind you, these people don't have the equipment, engineering resources, flow benches, dynos, or experience we do, but that doesn't stop them from criticizing those specs. We see this all of the time on rotating assemblies. People used to argue about our recommended clearances being wrong, yet our engines outlasted anything they had built locally.

At the end of the day, we really do want our customers satisfied. But I honestly don't think that giving you every spec to this build would do that. Even if you were spot on with the measuring of the cams (which I honestly have no idea about as even I don't have the specs on them) you've already decided that you don't like them. Mind you, you've come up with this without ever installing it, testing it, and with zero comparative data (since there is no one else on the planet doing camshafts for these) to base that opinion on. If engines/components could be designed on pen and paper, then why do the OEM's continue to waste time and effort testing things?

If you would like, return the head/cam package as it was shipped to you and we will give you a full in-store credit (less shipping of course). It's hard enough for us to keep up with the demand on them, so it would be good to have a set that's ready to ship.
 
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Regardless of the yammering over information or lack theroeof and why i am wrong and blah blah blah... Really... you told me it was "custom" over the phone and fully non refundable. Pm me an rma number and it's coming your way... that said... in store credit only won't do much for me. Charge me a restock fee ( 20% is free money to you on something you can resell at full retail.....)and give me a refund of real money. I am honestly never purchasing anything from you again... I mean why would I? So I can get more parts you won't release anything about and some random salesperson that knows absolutely nothing can try and talk down to me about something he knows nothing about. You go measure the cams... oh right... you wouldn't have a clue how. You put the time and effort into this stuff I have and build what I have... but you won't. Please just stop.

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Roughly 6500 before shipping and duty. Assembled heads with cams and phasers, studs and thermostat. Knock 20% off that and any forum member can have it all. Brand new in the boxes. I'm not eating the shipping though to some random individual.

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Roughly 6500 before shipping and duty. Assembled heads with cams and phasers, studs and thermostat. Knock 20% off that and any forum member can have it all. Brand new in the boxes. I'm not eating the shipping though to some random individual.

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Regardless of the yammering over information or lack theroeof and why i am wrong and blah blah blah... Really... you told me it was "custom" over the phone and fully non refundable. Pm me an rma number and it's coming your way... that said... in store credit only won't do much for me. Charge me a restock fee ( 20% is free money to you on something you can resell at full retail.....)and give me a refund of real money. I am honestly never purchasing anything from you again... I mean why would I? So I can get more parts you won't release anything about and some random salesperson that knows absolutely nothing can try and talk down to me about something he knows nothing about. You go measure the cams... oh right... you wouldn't have a clue how. You put the time and effort into this stuff I have and build what I have... but you won't. Please just stop.

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You are correct, it was custom work, which is why we can't refund it. But we will give you credit for it.

As I mentioned before, I am not certain what more we could do. a few posts back you were going to throw it in the garbage, now an offer of in house credit isn't good enough.

If you'd like to do this, feel free to PM me. Otherwise, at least stop picking out items from my comments and twisting them to fit your agenda. Read my entire message, and understand it's complete meaning. No one forced you to buy these, no one made a switch-a-roo on you, and no one gave you a product that won't do exactly what it's advertised to do. You had all of these answers before making the purchase, and if you respected them enough to buy them, you shouldn't now be picking them apart for zero reason.

And I am not certain if your comment about not knowing how to measure a cam was directed towards me, but I can assure you, I know how to use the Cam Doctor...
 
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You are correct, it was custom work, which is why we can't refund it. But we will give you credit for it.

As I mentioned before, I am not certain what more we could do. a few posts back you were going to throw it in the garbage, now an offer of in house credit isn't good enough.

If you'd like to do this, feel free to PM me. Otherwise, at least stop picking out items from my comments and twisting them to fit your agenda. Read my entire message, and understand it's complete meaning. No one forced you to buy these, no one made a switch-a-roo on you, and no one gave you a product that won't do exactly what it's advertised to do. You had all of these answers before making the purchase, and if you respected them enough to buy them, you shouldn't now be picking them apart for zero reason.

And I am not certain if your comment about not knowing how to measure a cam was directed towards me, but I can assure you, I know how to use the Cam Doctor...

I am not interested in your store credit. That is no different than throwing my parts in the trash which if I can't sell I will do.... I realize no one forced me to do anything but answering some questions when asked would have steered me away in the first place. I went with it because I thought it was a great idea but after looking over what I have it's not so much. Plus back to the absolutely no information ( even not the cam specs, but any other values I previously mentioned) I will not install this stuff. I also know how to use a dial indicator and a degree wheel........ but I am glad you can read values from a digital display.

I mean thanks for the offer......... but no thanks.

Good luck with your business and stop quoting me.

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Livernois, I think you have been more than fair on this one. Being also in the business of dealing with consumers, you can't please everyone no matter what you do.

You are more than welcome to purchase their parts and deal with how they conduct business. Good luck with that lol.
 
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Roughly 6500 before shipping and duty. Assembled heads with cams and phasers, studs and thermostat. Knock 20% off that and any forum member can have it all. Brand new in the boxes. I'm not eating the shipping though to some random individual.

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What would you consider 20% off? PM me if that wasn't blowing off steam. Got a feeling it might be a "mild" upgrade idk but if the price if right...
 

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