Report: 2019 F-150 Raptor To Receive Ford’s New 7.0L DOHC V8 Motor

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Honestly, if they make a 7.0 or any n/a Raptor that gets around similar gas mileage as the eb 3.5tt and puts more power and torque, i will buy one. For now the gen2 is a better truck imo, and i owned a gen1. Not too stuck up with the sound of the engine but personally prefer n/a cars.


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Because that's what enthusiasts want. And because we are in the middle of the biggest horsepower war ever. Take a look at what all of the big 3 have done in the past 5-10 years. The ecoboost isn't even on the radar screen. It's a joke of a motor meant to game EPA ratings.
Just like the motor in the GT-R, right? And the 2JZ-GTE back in the day?

The long and short of it is that if you take a look at the applications in which the 3.5L EB has been deployed to date, none of them are particularly performance-oriented (hey, just like the 6.2L!). The new GT will obviously change that... and it'll be interesting to see what kind of power they make once they hit the streets and roll into the tuner shops.
 

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V8 is coming back, but it definitely won't be a 7 liter


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Just like the motor in the GT-R, right? And the 2JZ-GTE back in the day?

The long and short of it is that if you take a look at the applications in which the 3.5L EB has been deployed to date, none of them are particularly performance-oriented (hey, just like the 6.2L!). The new GT will obviously change that... and it'll be interesting to see what kind of power they make once they hit the streets and roll into the tuner shops.

Dude, we've had this conversation before. Your tiny list of failed niche cars with turbo V6s (of which the 2JZ isn't even one) pales in comparison to the massive list of performance cars sold with V8s, by all manufacturers, even now many foreign ones. The V8 is still the king (at least until you get into the really exotic stuff).

And the new GT isn't going to change anything. The car only exists because of Le Mans class rules. There won't be very many of them built, which means aftermarket support will be very limited and very expensive. And I don't see many people taking their new half million dollar car to Joe Schmoe's garage to get the 2JZ toonz installed. Besides, you think they are going to top the 1500 horsepower 5.8 liter GTs running around out there now with a dinky little 3.5? Not going to happen.

I'm not saying you can't make a V6 fast, bro. I'm just saying it's a pointless exercise that the overwhelming majority of people aren't interested in.

When the V8 returns to the Raptor, nobody is going to be buying the V6. And you know it.
 

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I heard it was a twin 3.5l Ecoboost - one under the hood and one in the bed = 7L quad turbo

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When the V8 returns to the Raptor, nobody is going to be buying the V6. And you know it.


If there are options for motor selection wouldn't call it that way - in the standard F150 the v6 outsells the 5.0
 

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If there are options for motor selection wouldn't call it that way - in the standard F150 the v6 outsells the 5.0

Which V6? Do you mean all three of them combined, including the base 3.5 that goes in all the fleet trucks? I don't think the sales trends for the bottom of the line work trucks would really follow through to the flagship model, do you?
 

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Dude, we've had this conversation before. Your tiny list of failed niche cars with turbo V6s (of which the 2JZ isn't even one) pales in comparison to the massive list of performance cars sold with V8s, by all manufacturers, even now many foreign ones. The V8 is still the king (at least until you get into the really exotic stuff).

I'm not saying you can't make a V6 fast, bro. I'm just saying it's a pointless exercise that the overwhelming majority of people aren't interested in.
Do you follow cars at all? Downsizing and turbocharging has literally been the most prevalent powertrain trend of the last 5 years. V6's are replacing V8's in a ton of performance applications. This is what government regulation of fuel economy brings, and like it or not, CAFE is ******** on the performance parade.

Audi RS models (RS5/4) - 2.9L - 450hp
Mercedes AMG 43 Models - 3.0L - 396hp
Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio - 2.9 L - 505hp
Jaguar - 3.0L - 380 hp
Nissan/Infinity - 3.0L - 400 hp
Nissan GT-R - 3.8L - 565 hp
Cadillac ATS-V - 3.6L - 464 hp
Lexus - 3.5L - 415 hp
Maserati - 3.0L - 424 hp

Can you make a big list of V8 cars as well? For sure, and I am probably going to add another V8TT to my garage this year. But give it another 5 years and the list of V8's will shrink some more. Better get used to it.
 

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Do you follow cars at all? Downsizing and turbocharging has literally been the most prevalent powertrain trend of the last 5 years. V6's are replacing V8's in a ton of performance applications. This is what government regulation of fuel economy brings, and like it or not, CAFE is ******** on the performance parade.

Audi RS models (RS5/4) - 2.9L - 450hp
Mercedes AMG 43 Models - 3.0L - 396hp
Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio - 2.9 L - 505hp
Jaguar - 3.0L - 380 hp
Nissan/Infinity - 3.0L - 400 hp
Nissan GT-R - 3.8L - 565 hp
Cadillac ATS-V - 3.6L - 464 hp
Lexus - 3.5L - 415 hp
Maserati - 3.0L - 424 hp

Can you make a big list of V8 cars as well? For sure, and I am probably going to add another V8TT to my garage this year. But give it another 5 years and the list of V8's will shrink some more. Better get used to it.

Most of the cars on that list are eclipsed by versions with larger and much more powerful engines by the same manufacturers. Big power isn't going away. We've been hearing this same old song since the late 60s. Do you follow automotive history?
 
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