Recommendation for a good recovery strap?

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10mph is one fourth the energy of 20mph ... if it's only 5mph, you're talking one sixteenth. I'd be curious to know what speed is really possible in 20 feet, probably with less than ideal traction. We need a case of beer, a solid anchor, a radar gun, and an experimental attitude so that we can get real numbers. I have beer.
i got the hold my beer attitude. just need a cop...... but im sure we can find ways
 

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10mph is one fourth the energy of 20mph ... if it's only 5mph, you're talking one sixteenth. I'd be curious to know what speed is really possible in 20 feet, probably with less than ideal traction. We need a case of beer, a solid anchor, a radar gun, and an experimental attitude so that we can get real numbers. I have beer.
But once moving you do also have the forward energy (Wheel Torque and Traction) adding onto the inertia.
 

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10mph is one fourth the energy of 20mph ... if it's only 5mph, you're talking one sixteenth. I'd be curious to know what speed is really possible in 20 feet, probably with less than ideal traction. We need a case of beer, a solid anchor, a radar gun, and an experimental attitude so that we can get real numbers. I have beer.

I want to play that game with you!!!
 

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Exactly this. I’ve seen a chain break and go right through the windshield of the vehicle being recovered. Missed the drivers head by less than a foot. Definitely could have ended up much worse than just broken glass.

I use the ARB Snatch Strap in any tugging/jerking type situation.

My first new vehicle was a 4x4 so I started in off roading -casually- at 20. In one of my first group events someone got stuck and the truck I was in was closest. we hooked up a strap, secured it and had the stuck guy secure to his truck (lesson learned). He was trying to get across a creek and up the bank, and didn’t make it. We hooked up to pull him back. We didn’t see it, but the strap was rubbing on a sharp edge on the bumper I think. Anyway we got a few feet into the pull, and were moving him back when the strap cut loose and whacked out windshield with a solid THUD.
 

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I just got a new ARB 30ft Recovery strap and some Bubba soft shackles to go along with the Bubba Rope. I've pulled tourist from the soft sand on the beach several times a year. The most recent was a pain in the ass older Explorer with no place to tie a rope in the front and tiny lopes on the 1 inch reciever hitch that steel shackles wouldn't fit through.

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@smurfslayer I’m sure that’s enough to make you stain your pants a little bit.. This happened more when I was still back East - CT/NY - but I’d always have to reattach the pull point that the other person “secured” to. Amazing how basic of a concept it is, yet still flys right over peoples head.
 

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not necessarily. figure a 7000 pound truck moving at 20mph maybe? once that strap starts stretching, you can easily exceed 3 times the weight of the vehicle. usually not that extreme when trying to pull someone out, but it does get up there in numbers. if im doing math right..... which isnt always the case...... velocity times weight is force? (hope thats right) so 7000 pounds moving at 20mph equals 140,000lbs? now the kinetic energy ropes are designed to stretch and not take all that at once and since the stuck vehicle (in this case) requires less than that to be pulled out, shouldnt be an issue. but i have always been one to think to go big all the time. get more than what you need, so in case you need more, you have it

I don’t disagree with your logic at all. I had always noticed that almost every manufacturer specs I’ve read for both kinetic energy rope (Bubba rope style) and snatch strap (ARB style) have all suggested the same sizing parameter of being within that 3x weight rating for the minimum breaking point. I have no clue how that looks once you factor in speed/force, etc. I’m not smart enough to jump down that rabbit hole. My only grasp at understanding why they all suggest that was thinking if you’re oversized the rope itself won’t load up and act like a spring to pull back to its unstretched length - i.e. no benefit of the potential kinetic energy.

I’m with @GordoJay that some redneck testing and somebody recording the video is in good order.
 

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I bought the
Breaking Strength: 28,600 lbs.

gator-ize-logo-small.gif7/8" x 30' approximately 5 times the weight of a stock Raptor and 7/16 BUB176745RB shackles @52,300 lbs of breaking strength.

I'm good, need to get a tow strap thougIh.
 
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