I guess I should have quoted the poster above my reply, if you are paying the ADMs that some people on here are quoting that dealers are charging, I feel you are. $20K-30K markup? Are you kidding that's 30+% OVER MSRP. It cost money to be first, if you can get one at a decent deal, then so be it. For *me*, right now, *I* say paying MSRP is a good deal that *I* am willing to part with some of my (fool) money, others here might completely disagree and tell me I was robbed because I paid more than dealer invoice. Next year, or even in 2019, maybe MSRP will be considered a bad deal, maybe it won't.