GEN 2 Painting Eibachs

[Turbo95max]

Where I can I find that info?

Which info? That they will void your warranty? I'm sure it says on their website or you could call/email them and ask.

 

[Ski4Ever]

Which info? That they will void your warranty? I'm sure it says on their website or you could call/email them and ask.

Yeah, I was looking for info that says painting would void the warranty. I looked at the warranty info on their website (LINK), and I don't see anything that specifically says painting voids it. I do see in section 2c that it says the warranty does not apply to products that have been "IMPROPERLY SERVICED, THAT HAVE BEEN MISUSED, OR THAT HAVE BEEN MODIFIED, ALTERED OR SUBJECTED TO ABUSE, NEGLIGENCE, ACCIDENT OR COLLISION". I suppose painting could fall under the "altered" clause. However, section 2d of the warranty info also says the warranty does not apply if the springs were "INSTALLED IN ANY VEHICLE THAT HAS BEEN MODIFIED." Doesn't installing the springs basically constitute a modification by itself? Seems like they've really covered themselves if they say that modifying your vehicle (which I'm sure almost all of us have done in one way or another) will void the warranty.

I actually emailed Eibach about a week or two ago about seeing if they are still making the orange springs (which I've learned from a reseller is NOT an option), but I have yet to hear anything from them. I've heard they are shut down right now, so they don't seem to be answering emails or phone calls.

 

[Turbo95max]

Yeah, I was looking for info that says painting would void the warranty. I looked at the warranty info on their website (LINK), and I don't see anything that specifically says painting voids it. I do see in section 2c that it says the warranty does not apply to products that have been "IMPROPERLY SERVICED, THAT HAVE BEEN MISUSED, OR THAT HAVE BEEN MODIFIED, ALTERED OR SUBJECTED TO ABUSE, NEGLIGENCE, ACCIDENT OR COLLISION". I suppose painting could fall under the "altered" clause. However, section 2d of the warranty info also says the warranty does not apply if the springs were "INSTALLED IN ANY VEHICLE THAT HAS BEEN MODIFIED." Doesn't installing the springs basically constitute a modification by itself? Seems like they've really covered themselves if they say that modifying your vehicle (which I'm sure almost all of us have done in one way or another) will void the warranty.

I actually emailed Eibach about a week or two ago about seeing if they are still making the orange springs (which I've learned from a reseller is NOT an option), but I have yet to hear anything from them. I've heard they are shut down right now, so they don't seem to be answering emails or phone calls.

Thats correct. The warranty is for the springs themselves. Installing them on a modified vehicle doesnt constitute a modification to the springs. If you cut them, paint them, etc, that is a modification to the spring. Eibach doesnt know how they were painted, or lets say painted incorrectly and it rusts. We've had customers powder coat springs and was done poorly and the paint flaked and caused the springs to rust. They then tried to have the spring manufacturer warranty them and was denied. Technically once painted, Eibach doesn't even know its their spring anymore, could be some cheapo knockoff.

 

[Ski4Ever]

Thats correct. The warranty is for the springs themselves. Installing them on a modified vehicle doesnt constitute a modification to the springs. If you cut them, paint them, etc, that is a modification to the spring. Eibach doesnt know how they were painted, or lets say painted incorrectly and it rusts. We've had customers powder coat springs and was done poorly and the paint flaked and caused the springs to rust. They then tried to have the spring manufacturer warranty them and was denied. Technically once painted, Eibach doesn't even know its their spring anymore, could be some cheapo knockoff.

I understand what you're saying, but going by the exact wording on the warranty page, "THIS WARRANTY DOES NOT APPLY TO ANY PRODUCTS [...] INSTALLED IN ANY VEHICLE THAT HAS BEEN MODIFIED". So, that's saying that if you install the springs in the modified vehicle (not saying whether or not the springs have been modified), then the warranty doesn't apply. Again, installing Eibachs rather than stock springs would be considered installing them in a vehicle that has been modified, wouldn't it? Or, say you've already put ICONs/Deavers in the back...could Eibach then claim that because you're running a modified rear suspension that it somehow affected the front springs, were something to happen. I'm not saying I agree with all of this, just trying to understand.

And, how many people actually ever need warranty work done on a spring? Even if it rusts, it's going to take a LOT of rust to affect the performance of the spring.

For ~$200 in springs, I think I'd be willing to take the risk that Eibach might not accept a warranty claim, in the minuscule chance that they ever needed it.

 

[Ghostrider757]

I got them back from powdercoating today. The other one is on the floor lol.

 

[Turbo95max]

I understand what you're saying, but going by the exact wording on the warranty page, "THIS WARRANTY DOES NOT APPLY TO ANY PRODUCTS [...] INSTALLED IN ANY VEHICLE THAT HAS BEEN MODIFIED". So, that's saying that if you install the springs in the modified vehicle (not saying whether or not the springs have been modified), then the warranty doesn't apply. Again, installing Eibachs rather than stock springs would be considered installing them in a vehicle that has been modified, wouldn't it? Or, say you've already put ICONs/Deavers in the back...could Eibach then claim that because you're running a modified rear suspension that it somehow affected the front springs, were something to happen. I'm not saying I agree with all of this, just trying to understand.

And, how many people actually ever need warranty work done on a spring? Even if it rusts, it's going to take a LOT of rust to affect the performance of the spring.

For ~$200 in springs, I think I'd be willing to take the risk that Eibach might not accept a warranty claim, in the minuscule chance that they ever needed it.

I think you are looking into this way too much. Any modification to the spring will void your warranty, simple as that. Of course if someone throws a big enough fit then i'm sure the manufacturer will bend. If you disagree with the exact wording on the warranty page, talk to Eibach. Go ahead and paint your springs, or don't. I don't care, and I don't work for Eibach, but I have worked with many spring manufacturers for years including Eibach, and I am familiar with their policies and some ridiculous warranty claims.

 

[digscruze]

I got them back from powdercoating today. The other one is on the floor lol.

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Looks Sick!

How much did it cost you?

 

[Ski4Ever]

Does anyone know if Eibachs are powder coated from the factory? I've been in contact with Eastwood regarding their 2K AERO Spray paint, and they said "if they are powder coated, you would need to use an adhesion promoter such as BULLDOG Adhesion Promoter (#ETPO123B) this product will promote the best adhesion between the 2k AERO spray and the powder coat".

I used some steel wool to remove the outer (gloss) coating, but have not taken the springs down to bare steel, as that would be a LOT more work.

 

[19PANDA]

Does anyone know if Eibachs are powder coated from the factory? I've been in contact with Eastwood regarding their 2K AERO Spray paint, and they said "if they are powder coated, you would need to use an adhesion promoter such as BULLDOG Adhesion Promoter (#ETPO123B) this product will promote the best adhesion between the 2k AERO spray and the powder coat".

I used some steel wool to remove the outer (gloss) coating, but have not taken the springs down to bare steel, as that would be a LOT more work.

If you’re using adhesion promoter then you only need to scuff until dull before prepping with solvent remover

 

[Ski4Ever]

If you’re using adhesion promoter then you only need to scuff until dull before prepping with solvent remover

Is solvent remover the same as adhesion promoter, or is that another step? If different steps, what order do those steps go in?