?? On spacers vs aftermarket kits and cv bind etc

[str8fast]

So while working on another members truck helping put in a Svc dual setup in front I started thinking how the hell is this any different than running a spacer in the front (as far as cv angles) from what I gathered that was the biggest reasoning behind not runnin a spacer on the stock coilover??
Or is the thought process that the 3.0 will limit travel before cv issues??



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[ntm]

Yup, 3.0 limits travel. They don't add that much droop, 1/2" or so depending on brand.
If you level the truck side to side, you can get about 31 degrees of angle on the cv before binding. 26 is safer and what is considered to be the limit. Spacers put it right at 32 degrees at full droop, bad news.
On a side note, you don't need 3.0 coilovers with any double shock front kit, the external bypass secondary does the lions share of the damping. You can simply run the stock coilover.

 

[str8fast]

Yup, 3.0 limits travel. They don't add that much droop, 1/2" or so depending on brand.
If you level the truck side to side, you can get about 31 degrees of angle on the cv before binding. 26 is safer and what is considered to be the limit. Spacers put it right at 32 degrees at full droop, bad news.
On a side note, you don't need 3.0 coilovers with any double shock front kit, the external bypass secondary does the lions share of the damping. You can simply run the stock coilover.

So at full droop there will be issues with cv angle....

I guess where I'm getting stuck is it kind of seems like putting the cart before the horse.....
If and when u get to full droop I'm not sure ur main concern is cv angle..no? How bout ur launching a 6000 lb truck in the air...or your going through whoops entirely too fast/or slow and your suspension as a whole is out of its range of capabilities. If u are cycling ur suspension that much ur obviously pushing the truck pretty hard and most likely not in 4wd (at least I don't use it when I'm jumping or know I'm going to be cycling the suspension that much) so at that point the issue is the cv is holding the unsprung weight???
Sorry if I'm not making sense I'm at work in the john hahah trying to get a quick post in


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[ntm]

So at full droop there will be issues with cv angle....

I guess where I'm getting stuck is it kind of seems like putting the cart before the horse.....
If and when u get to full droop I'm not sure ur main concern is cv angle..no? How bout ur launching a 6000 lb truck in the air...or your going through whoops entirely too fast/or slow and your suspension as a whole is out of its range of capabilities. If u are cycling ur suspension that much ur obviously pushing the truck pretty hard and most likely not in 4wd (at least I don't use it when I'm jumping or know I'm going to be cycling the suspension that much) so at that point the issue is the cv is holding the unsprung weight???
Sorry if I'm not making sense I'm at work in the john hahah trying to get a quick post in


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Well, if you're mall crawling, you'll be alright.
Which is why some people get away with it.
But having an off-road truck that you can't use off-road is kind of fruity.
It's pretty easy to droop the suspension out off-road actually, you don't have to be straight abusing it.
Coilover preload and unsprung weight will mess that cv up real quick, in 4x4 or not.

 

[str8fast]

I wish I mall crawled then my truck would still be nice [emoji16]....
I beat the hell out of my truck and love every minute of it. With that being said let me recap
So if a spacer is installed the general consensus is that u will prematurely wear the cv's on a seemingly useless 4wd system...... So don't run a spacer because u will f up ur cv....ok so with that thought process should I not ever put my truck in 4wd?? Knowing the iwes suck and will fail... Not meaning to come off at you @ntm just ranting is all. I'm kind of feeling like the whole thought behind not putting in a spacer is more of a market ploy to sell 3.0 or other upgrades. I recently went from top perch(way I bought my truck) to mid when I rebuilt them. During our poker run I couldn't believe how much better the control was offroad and it got me wondering how much better stock would probably do out there. But my 35s already come close to rubbing and on stock would be out of the question that's where this whole thought came from


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[ntm]

Spacers is definitely not the answer if you're using it hard offroad.
They will, with 100% certainty, damage your cv's and the uca outboard ball joint.
If you're concerned about tire clearance, glass fenders are the way to go.
The only proper way to get more clearance up front besides glass, is to convert to 2wd and use a lift spindle.

 

[PropDr]

Add the spindles gooseneck to the problem areas.
At full droop it will see a multiple of normal forces and over time, it will break.