Nitto Ridge Grapplers Loss of MPG?

[rtmozingo]

Aloha,

I replaced my stock KO2 335x70xR17 KO2's with Firestone Destination MT2 Mud Tires size 35x12.5xR17 on my 2017 Raptor SCREW. On the Stock tires I was getting 14 to 15 City, 18 to 19 Hwy. With the mud tires I'm getting only 12 to 13mpg City and 16 to 19mpg Hwy.

How is noise between the two? The new version of that tire has my attention....

 

[jaz13]

Ford and BFG worked really hard on the updated KO2 tread pattern to increase mpg and lower road noise, yet retain full offroad capability. No doubt they put a lot more time and energy into optimizing the design for MPG than other manufacturers, so it isn't a surprise changing tires hits MPGs pretty hard.

 

[Hawaiian Time]

How is noise between the two? The new version of that tire has my attention....

The Firestone MT2's are pretty quiet for a Mud Tire. At at 0 to 5 mph they vibrate a little from the lugs, no vibration after that. At highway speed they are quiet, maybe just a hair more hum than the BFG's. Nothing that bothers me. Flooring it is much louder than the tires (stock exhaust). The MT2's are quieter than their 1st gen MT's. No impact to listening to stereo or talking.

These tires are very sticky AND last forever. I had 1st gen Destination MT's on a Chevy 98 S10 ZR2 that lasted 80,000 miles - size 31 x10.5 x R15. Still had 3/32's tread left when the truck died at 180k miles.

I will NEVER buy BFG tires! The S10's original KO's right rear tread peeled off like a retread at freeway speed while my son was driving on H3. The tread wrapped itself around the tail pipe and ripped it off. The tire carcass was still holding 36 lbs air, no leak! Luckily my son maintained control and it was not a front tire! BFG said it was because the tire was 6 years old and would NOT warranty even prorated! The original TA's on my 04 GTO also had 1 tire with tread seperation and another where steel belt wires were sticking out of the inner sidewall! CRAP quality.

Firestone will give you a package deal if you open their credit card 10% off. I got 5 tires, lifetime balance, mounting, road hazard, tread lifetime warranty & lifetime rotation for less than $1,800. They even thru in a TPMS sensor for the spare for free. Their 35×12.5×R17 Load Range E size fits perfectly on the stock rims with no lift needed NO rubbing. The spare still fits under the truck too without touching the exhaust pipes and clears the Differential by 3". Hard to get that size, local Firestone had to get them from 3 other shops locally. Tire Rack sells them too. Less expensive at Firestone. These MT 2's are the #1 rated Mud Tire on Tire Rack. And yes they are that good!

Bridgestone and Firestone are the same company. Very good quality.

 

[warrior]

315x70x17 Falken Wildpeak AT3, same mileage, 13ish

 

[Roy Esslinger]

I only have 90 miles on mine and it shows 10MPG, surely I havn't gone through 9 gallons of gas today LOL

 

[Deleted member 17706]

There is no need for Trolls on this site, but they come anyway. If you don't like our posts, go to another forum.

Because someone questions or disagrees with you, you suggest for them to go somewhere else? Quite pathetic.

 

[Hawaiian Time]

Because someone questions or disagrees with you, you suggest for them to go somewhere else? Quite pathetic.

Trolls and H8R's are pathetic. I suggested to them going somewhere else because all the guy was doing is complaining about how bad FRF was. He's disrespecting the FRF site and the members on it, not disagreeing with me. He dont like, he dont need to read it. And we dont need his bogus comments polluting this site.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Trolls and H8R's are pathetic. I suggested to them going somewhere else because all the guy was doing is complaining about how bad FRF was. He's disrespecting the FRF site and the members on it, not disagreeing with me. He dont like, he dont need to read it. And we dont need his bogus comments polluting this site.

Surrounding yourself with people that only you agree with and/or people that think just like you is dangerous.

What he stated was not disrespectful. It was fair points of criticism, which is why so many people liked his post! The Ford dealership that I take my truck to has told me that I am the only Raptor they have seen actually use their truck! He said this on a day with four Raptors being serviced.

Your logic is the same with most peoples objection to hate speech: someone states something that I disagree with; therefore what that person said must be hate speech. Moreover, since that person said something hateful—or in this case, disrespectful— I am going to start ad hominem attacks against that person rather than deal with what he is saying.

I am not defending the people that truly are trolls because those people killed this forum. But to tell the guy, who brought up fair points of criticism, to leave or be banned from a forum because it does not sit well with those in power/majority is pathetic.

 

[Hawaiian Time]

Surrounding yourself with people that only you agree with and/or people that think just like you is dangerous.

What he stated was not disrespectful. It was fair points of criticism, which is why so many people liked his post! The Ford dealership that I take my truck to has told me that I am the only Raptor they have seen actually use their truck! He said this on a day with four Raptors being serviced.

Your logic is the same with most peoples objection to hate speech: someone states something that I disagree with; therefore what that person said must be hate speech. Moreover, since that person said something hateful—or in this case, disrespectful— I am going to start ad hominem attacks against that person rather than deal with what he is saying.

I am not defending the people that truly are trolls because those people killed this forum. But to tell the guy, who brought up fair points of criticism, to leave or be banned from a forum because it does not sit well with those in power/majority is pathetic.

Dont you think calling me "pathetic" is overkill? My point is for him to ASSUME that most Gen2 Raptor owners bought their trucks as Trophy trucks is wrong. He is labeling people without knowing them. And so what, who cares? Why make inflamatory comment to everyone on FRF. You may be OK with that but I'm not. If you think calling out Haters and Trolls for what they are is wrong, well to quote you "that's pathetic". I never said the guy should be banned. I said if he doesnt like the site he can always leave. That was dealing with what he said. No need to hang around to bitch and moan. Too many whiners nowadays. Hate speech on my part? Nope, far far from that.

OK? Peace.

Aloha, HT

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Dont you think calling me "pathetic" is overkill? My point is for him to ASSUME that most Gen2 Raptor owners bought their trucks as Trophy trucks is wrong. He is labeling people without knowing them. And so what, who cares? Why make inflamatory comment to everyone on FRF. You may be OK with that but I'm not. If you think calling out Haters and Trolls for what they are is wrong, well to quote you "that's pathetic". I never said the guy should be banned. I said if he doesnt like the site he can always leave. That was dealing with what he said. No need to hang around to bitch and moan. Too many whiners nowadays. Hate speech on my part? Nope, far far from that.

OK? Peace.

Aloha, HT

So who made you the judge to determine what is inflammatory or not? This is my whole point. You raised fair objections to his argument. Leave it at that. You do not have the authority to tell someone to go somewhere else just because that person holds a different philosophy than you.

And you are right, it is pathetic that I have to advocate for free speech in a country that was built upon that principle. Clearly, you do not see the problem with telling someone to leave just because they question you. I never said that this was hate speech. But you feeling disrespected because someone else criticized your viewpoint mimics the logic of how hate speech is used to ban people: get rid of those that espouse different viewpoints than one's own because such people are dangerous, evil, and trolls.

With all that said—I am done arguing about this—I do like the picture you posted above. Oxford White is one of my favorite colors on the Gen 2.