My new Orange Crew

[iceman302]

God bless the zoom feature on my iPhone!

 

[BOJANGLES]

God bless the zoom feature on my iPhone!

Hehe. Pinch and Drag...... just like you'd like to do to her. Pinch that ass and Drag it back to the man-cave.

 

[pirate air]

Damn you don't **** around. Nice Truck, can't wait to see how the supercharger progresses. Need video......... No wait.... DEMAND video when things are finished

OK help me out here. This is a turbo not a supercharger right.
Sorry for the stupid questions but that's what it looks like to me.
Your 1st post said supercharger.

Centrifugal blowers (like the procharger) and turbos are similar in design and theory of operation when it comes to compressing the air. One just runs via belt, the other expanding exhaust gas. Thats why the compressor housings and wheels look alike. So its easy to confuse the two if your not familiar with them.

 

[IRONMAN]

Mmmmmmm Yummy

 

[IRONMAN]

Damn you don't **** around. Nice Truck, can't wait to see how the supercharger progresses. Need video......... No wait.... DEMAND video when things are finished





Centrifugal blowers (like the procharger) and turbos are similar in design and theory of operation when it comes to compressing the air. One just runs via belt, the other expanding exhaust gas. Thats why the compressor housings and wheels look alike. So its easy to confuse the two if your not familiar with them.

So what are the pro's and con's of running a system like this.
Quicker install?
Less stress on the motor?
Just trying to understand this system as opposed to a turbo or regular supercharger.

 

[pirate air]

So what are the pro's and con's of running a system like this.
Quicker install?
Less stress on the motor?
Just trying to understand this system as opposed to a turbo or regular supercharger.

This is hard to answer because theres so many variables, but...

Personally I'm a turbo guy (when it comes to straight up nasty hp). I've own/ed all three types of forced induction. My Saleen has a roots blower (positive displacement), I owned a 04 stang that I put a procharger on, and I have and old 5.0 fox with a turbo. The positive/roots blowers make boost almost instantly so you get a lot of low end torque and a flat power band. For the type of vehicle the Raptor is, a roots/positive displacement is the way I would go if I were to boost it. But since theres no roots kit out for the 6.2 yet, your only options are the Procharger or the overpriced hennescam turbo kit (or build your own turbo kit). Procharger/centrifugal style blowers and turbos make their boost at higher rpm (you need to size your turbo correctly to the engine displacement and hp goals to avoid lag). Generally centri's and turbos make more top end power (higher RPM power) over positive displacement blowers. So this works great for when cars are racing and the engine RPM is kept/shifted high.

For the easiest to install I would say either blower style will be close to the same. The turbo would probably be the hardest and more expensive.

Imo the turbo is the least stressful on the engine because the crank snout is not having to turn the torque of the blower to create boost. Also turbo/centri boost comes on gradual which wont shock load the rods as much as a positive displacement blower or spray. Turbos are also the most efficient. Down fall to turbos is heat, if the turbo/s not packaged right/well, you will significantly raise the under hood temps which won't be good for anything. But really, boost is boost. The least amount of stress and reliability will always rely on the tune, fuel quality, amount of boost, and how the owner treats the truck.

 

[iceman302]

So what are the pro's and con's of running a system like this.
Quicker install?
Less stress on the motor?
Just trying to understand this system as opposed to a turbo or regular supercharger.

A centrifugal (versus a Roots type/positive displacement) supercharger is more dependent on engine RPM to produce boost. They are typically more "peaky" in their power delivery, whereas, a positive displacement blower will build boost much sooner and often make more power and torque down low. The upside to a centrifugal is that they can be quieter (depending on the internals used) and are less costly. You also have more intercooling options with a centrifugal. The centrifugal is usually easier to install and much lighter in weight as well.

A turbo is by far the most efficient since it doesn't cost any power to produce boost. It basically is driven off the engine's exhaust gas so its "free" horsepower. The downside is that turbochargers produce a lot of heat and need a good intercooler. They are also the most expensive solution.

 

[iceman302]

Pirate Air, I must've been still typing my response when you replied. You were a little faster on the draw than I was. LOL.

 

[IRONMAN]

WOW! There is definitely a lot to know if you want to upgrade your power with these things.
I've owned a Pontiac Grad prix GTP with the superchager and man did I love it.
My brother also had a Ford probe with the turbo and every time I would drove that thing
it would freek me out on how much BALLS that thing had for a 4 banger.
Thanks guys for the info.

 

[BIRDMAN]

thought I would never sell it....but i never really drove it. it became more of a showpiece for my work....for a general idea of my personality read through the ad including the questions...

Hummer : H1 - eBay (item 180601845961 end time Dec-26-10 18:30:00 PST)


bird, send me your taillights and I will do them for free...you pay shipping

that's one hell of a generous offer! i think i will take you up on that someday i just need to figure out what i'm gonna do without tail lights

ps. can u post a write up on the exhaust cut out? i NEED to do this also. how does it work with an always on/always off switch like the AUX switches?