Mid 2018 new metal oil pan

[Wfo]

also having my third oil pan put in, also was told they will not put a metal one in!

truck is at the dealer right now for $2,200 worth of new headlights, the third oil pan, and IWEs or whatever is grinding in the front end!

quality!

What was the issue with your headlights? Moisture behind lens?

 

[smurfslayer]

How can some owners have continued and multiple leaks and others with 2 years of ownership have none?

Has to be more than just the pan to blame .

It could be a supplier switch; ex. Ford sources part from Acme widgets. Acme underbid the contract and after delivering the initial batch, tries to renegotiate, Ford says “F.U. more than one oil pan supplier in the world”, they land a contract with Wile E Coyote creations who can make the pan to spec and do it cheaper. Because they’re using a less pliable plastic. Initial run of ’17’s work, but the WEC batch immediately show problems. Now, only the bad pans are in inventory. Ford goes back to Acme, hat in hand and pays exorbitantly for warranty pans. Now they start seeing a much smaller percentage of the first Acme pans failing. Ford say “enough of this, begone with your plastic for oil pans”. they source a metal pan from heavy metal and don’t look back.

But, what do they do with all the Acme and WEC pans? WARRANTY!

about 7 or 8 years back, Ascerbis replaced a few truckloads full of fuel tanks for Ducati, Husky, Aprilia, and many more. The problem was the US fuel blends were causing warpage of the plastic. In some cases the warpage was bad enough that the tank couldn’t be removed without breaking the mount points. Mine was only cosmetically affected but got replaced on my Ducati. The same tank worked in every other market, it was only the US fuel blends that were the problem. The replacement was - wait for it.... Plastic.

I can see several ways in which Ford would have had this issue with the oil pans. I’m sure the metal pan is more expensive.

 

[Daxton]

It could be a supplier switch; ex. Ford sources part from Acme widgets. Acme underbid the contract and after delivering the initial batch, tries to renegotiate, Ford says “F.U. more than one oil pan supplier in the world”, they land a contract with Wile E Coyote creations who can make the pan to spec and do it cheaper. Because they’re using a less pliable plastic. Initial run of ’17’s work, but the WEC batch immediately show problems. Now, only the bad pans are in inventory. Ford goes back to Acme, hat in hand and pays exorbitantly for warranty pans. Now they start seeing a much smaller percentage of the first Acme pans failing. Ford say “enough of this, begone with your plastic for oil pans”. they source a metal pan from heavy metal and don’t look back.

But, what do they do with all the Acme and WEC pans? WARRANTY!

about 7 or 8 years back, Ascerbis replaced a few truckloads full of fuel tanks for Ducati, Husky, Aprilia, and many more. The problem was the US fuel blends were causing warpage of the plastic. In some cases the warpage was bad enough that the tank couldn’t be removed without breaking the mount points. Mine was only cosmetically affected but got replaced on my Ducati. The same tank worked in every other market, it was only the US fuel blends that were the problem. The replacement was - wait for it.... Plastic.

I can see several ways in which Ford would have had this issue with the oil pans. I’m sure the metal pan is more expensive.

Exactly. And Ford is in arbitration with Acme to cover some or all of warranty costs.


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[xrocket21]

What was the issue with your headlights? Moisture behind lens?

broken headlight adjusters

 

[Wfo]

broken headlight adjusters

I traded my 14 in on a 18 last weekend. I noticed moisture behind the lens awhile after I took delivery.

 

[xrocket21]

I traded my 14 in on a 18 last weekend. I noticed moisture behind the lens awhile after I took delivery.

I have no lens moisture

 

[cwylie]

Does anyone have all the part numbers for the metal conversion?

 

[Hawaiian Time]

It could be a supplier switch; ex. Ford sources part from Acme widgets. Acme underbid the contract and after delivering the initial batch, tries to renegotiate, Ford says “F.U. more than one oil pan supplier in the world”, they land a contract with Wile E Coyote creations who can make the pan to spec and do it cheaper. Because they’re using a less pliable plastic. Initial run of ’17’s work, but the WEC batch immediately show problems. Now, only the bad pans are in inventory. Ford goes back to Acme, hat in hand and pays exorbitantly for warranty pans. Now they start seeing a much smaller percentage of the first Acme pans failing. Ford say “enough of this, begone with your plastic for oil pans”. they source a metal pan from heavy metal and don’t look back.

I can see several ways in which Ford would have had this issue with the oil pans. I’m sure the metal pan is more expensive.

I just dont understand why Ford would even consider putting a plastic oil and trans pan on an $80k High Performance truck. Weight savings is minimal, performance is worse since plastic "composite" does not shed heat as well as metal and plastic burns, metal doesnt. The only reason is a few bucks cost savings for more profit on parts that most owners will never notice. The Director of Value Engineering got a Bonus for this one! I would have gladly paid $200 more for my truck to get metal oil pans! On the contrary, if I had known the 2017's had plastic pans, I would not have bought one!!! This is what is wrong with American Manufacturers! Penny Wise and Pound Foolish!!! They let Beancounters make design & build decisions.

Luckily, I have an early build 2017 and do not have any oil pan leak issues but still want to replace it with a metal pan eventually. Afe makes a nice aluminum trans pan with heat fins for our trucks but no oil pan. Can anyone recommend a good aftermarket oil pan and oil pump for 2017 Raptor SCREW?

Thanks, HT

 

[Hawaiian Time]

In the 1980's Ford's Motto was "Quality is Job One". Not so much anymore! Now its Profit is Job One! Milk it for all we can get!!! What they dont realize is that they are pissing off and driving away their most loyal high value purchasers then rubbing salt in their wounds with crap service after the sale!

For the most part the 20 somethings generation are not into cars, its just transportation. The cheaper the better, and they want to be driving an App not a vehicle. Self driving cars are what they want so they can be texting while going somewhere. Driving is just a chore to them... Probably one of the reasons theres a shortage of Mechanics now too. Nobody wants to get their hands dirty.

Aloha, HT

 

[Booth9999]

So I bought the oil pan and tube and dropped off at dealer today... we'll see if they fit!

I *think*
plastic pan tube = HL3Z-6622-A
metal pan tube = LK4Z-6622-A

A bunch of the ford parts sites left off the front 4 letters so I was quite confused.

Did i it fit or what?