Lost oil pressure time to find out why?

[byz250f]

I thought I read somewhere that the Raptor is getting a new oil pan design in the next few months. Wonder if this could be a reason why.

 

[robbcwz]

Interesting point of view. I’ve never owned a vehicle that ate 3.5 quarts of oil in 2,000 miles....and if the manufacturer recommends changing your oil every 5k, it shouldn’t be eating oil. It’s a design flaw and the dealer already acknowledged it.

You said 5000 miles originally and now you say 2000 miles - which excuse would youlike to adjust to; either way, you should be checking your oil at least every 1000 miles regardless of make and model. Most manufacturers consider 1-to2qt per 1000 miles "normal" these days so by waiting 5000 miles you could have been down to your last quart.

Sorry, but unless you can show a decent oil leak as the reason the oil is low, then any damages should be on you for failing to check the oil (and other liquids) as recomended. Without a leak, claiming a design flaw, to me, is rather rediculus; it would seem more of a basic flaw in the owner.

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Interesting point of view. I’ve never owned a vehicle that ate 3.5 quarts of oil in 2,000 miles....and if the manufacturer recommends changing your oil every 5k, it shouldn’t be eating oil. It’s a design flaw and the dealer already acknowledged it.

How would you know if you never check your oil levels between oil changes? I dont see where your dealer acknowledged any design flaw. I see you thinking you heard that, but a dealer is not going to put his neck (and $$$) out and say something like that, he will wait for Ford to answer.

 

[OPT PRIME]

Regardless of the vehicle, not checking your oil in 5k miles is pretty careless and abusive.

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That’s a flaw in the owner, not a ensign flaw. Pure abuse if you’re not checking fluids frequently - and every 5k is not frequent.

My Miata ND has 12,000 track miles at 9.5/10ths and doesn't burn a drop between 600 mile oil changes. My '08 F150 5.4 never burned a drop between its 6,000 mile changes, same for my friend's Toyota 3MZ V6s. My Z06, different story.


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[dewalt]

And I have seen turbo diesels not burn oil, so much for the armchair experts talking something they know nothing about. Compression and turbos do not eat oil

 

[AndysLog]

You said 5000 miles originally and now you say 2000 miles - which excuse would youlike to adjust to; either way, you should be checking your oil at least every 1000 miles regardless of make and model. Most manufacturers consider 1-to2qt per 1000 miles "normal" these days so by waiting 5000 miles you could have been down to your last quart.

Sorry, but unless you can show a decent oil leak as the reason the oil is low, then any damages should be on you for failing to check the oil (and other liquids) as recomended. Without a leak, claiming a design flaw, to me, is rather rediculus; it would seem more of a basic flaw in the owner.

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How would you know if you never check your oil levels between oil changes? I dont see where your dealer acknowledged any design flaw. I see you thinking you heard that, but a dealer is not going to put his neck (and $$$) out and say something like that, he will wait for Ford to answer.

losing a quart or two over a thousand miles is not only not normal but i believe its one of the most retarded statements i have ever seen typed out.

 

[robbcwz]

losing a quart or two over a thousand miles is not only not normal but i believe its one of the most retarded statements i have ever seen typed out.

Then I am a retard in good company since IT IS IN WRITING WITH MANY MANUFACTURERS.

How much is too much?
Audi, BMW, and Subaru stick firmly to the statement that oil consumption is a normal part of a car’s operation. Subaru considers a quart burned every 1,000 to 1,200 miles to be acceptable. Certain Audi and BMW cars’ standards state that a quart burned every 600 to 700 miles is reasonable.

If a driver has to add a quart of oil once per month, that can mean adding up to 7 to 9 quarts of oil between oil changes. Those costs due to excessive oil consumption can add up because automakers more frequently require synthetic oils that can cost upwards of $9 per quart—in addition to the expense of the routine oil changes.

Consumer Reports data does not show a direct connection between increased oil consumption and other engine problems. But our survey data concerning 10 model years shows that if a car burns oil early in its life, it will burn even more as it ages. In tracking oil consumption by model year, engine families show increased consumption with each successive year on the road.

Having to add oil isn’t a problem that will necessarily strand you by the side of the road if you are vigilant about monitoring your oil levels. But we think it’s a serious problem that automakers should address.

Not all engines suffer from this problem. In fact, our data shows that owners of 98 percent of 2010 to 2014 cars did not have to add oil between changes. But the cars that do burn oil do so furiously. Even if only 2 percent of vehicles sold since 2010 have this problem, that still represents about 1.5 million vehicles on the road.

Consumer Reports believes that any engine that burns oil between changes should be repaired under the powertrain warranty. But automakers often shield themselves in the fine print of their owners’ manuals.

 

[smurfslayer]

It’s not “normal” for an engine to consume a quart of oil over the course of an oil change interval or less, whatever the oil change threshold is. What manufacturers do is document an acceptable, non-warrantable amount of oil consumption.

 

[tmd11111]

Dude the 80's called, they want your service schedule back. A quart every 1000 miles is history and if any modern manufacturer tried passing that off the EPA would stop production faster then they did VW for cheating emissions.

 

[kandewinn]

Look up Porshe 997 (911). That car can and does consume up to 1.5 quarts every 622 miles. There is a reason that Porsche provided a leather pouch to carry extra oil inside the car. It was only when I found the pouch while looking through the trunk that I realized that I needed to check the oil in the thing frequently. I was somewhat surprised when I realized how much it would use. BTW, put over 100K miles on that car with zero issues...It simply used oil, and the harder you drove it, the quicker it used it...and it never leaked a drop, as we parked it in the same spot inside the garage for a few years. It was a 2009 if you are curious, so no, the 80's are not calling. BUT, 17K miles on my Raptor, does not consume oil.

 

[Jackie]

I don't see oil consumption being addressed in the Raptor manual, am I just looking over it? I could be a retard too and simply missing it?

Then I am a retard in good company since IT IS IN WRITING WITH MANY MANUFACTURERS.

How much is too much?
Audi, BMW, and Subaru stick firmly to the statement that oil consumption is a normal part of a car’s operation. Subaru considers a quart burned every 1,000 to 1,200 miles to be acceptable. Certain Audi and BMW cars’ standards state that a quart burned every 600 to 700 miles is reasonable.

If a driver has to add a quart of oil once per month, that can mean adding up to 7 to 9 quarts of oil between oil changes. Those costs due to excessive oil consumption can add up because automakers more frequently require synthetic oils that can cost upwards of $9 per quart—in addition to the expense of the routine oil changes.

Consumer Reports data does not show a direct connection between increased oil consumption and other engine problems. But our survey data concerning 10 model years shows that if a car burns oil early in its life, it will burn even more as it ages. In tracking oil consumption by model year, engine families show increased consumption with each successive year on the road.

Having to add oil isn’t a problem that will necessarily strand you by the side of the road if you are vigilant about monitoring your oil levels. But we think it’s a serious problem that automakers should address.

Not all engines suffer from this problem. In fact, our data shows that owners of 98 percent of 2010 to 2014 cars did not have to add oil between changes. But the cars that do burn oil do so furiously. Even if only 2 percent of vehicles sold since 2010 have this problem, that still represents about 1.5 million vehicles on the road.

Consumer Reports believes that any engine that burns oil between changes should be repaired under the powertrain warranty. But automakers often shield themselves in the fine print of their owners’ manuals.