Is the market saturated??

[Idaho]

Based on what has been posted, the market is only saturated at those ADM's. The flow of customers with the willingness to pay for a truck with that sort of ADM has most likely slowed and / or dried up. There won't be a "saturation" until you see dealers selling raptors with significant discounts below the sticker price such as with the 20's and 19's after covid lockdown occurred.

 

[V8 Goat]

Based on what has been posted, the market is only saturated at those ADM's. The flow of customers with the willingness to pay for a truck with that sort of ADM has most likely slowed and / or dried up.

This is my take on it as well. However, with an inconsistent supply of new Raptors coming, the dealers are still likely to sit on the trucks they have in stock as they attempt to maximize their profit.

When we reach the point of most dealers having Raptors in stock, you will likely see ADMs go away. But how long will it be before we reach that point?

 

[CINISI]

You're speculating that people actually believe anything on the internet and if they believe your crap then they are into conspiracy theories, which is the farthest thing form the truth. People come to this forum(internet) for help on their raptors and the rest is a place to have fun and eat popcorn. Some people get upset, yes, some people laugh it off. Most raptor owners fall into the latter.

Oh geez ...yes they come to this forum for people to convince them to spend the extra $20k.
Get over it.

 

[CoronaRaptor]

Oh geez ...yes they come to this forum for people to convince them to spend the extra $20k.
Get over it.

Get over what?? Nobody comes here for advice on spending 20,000 on adm, some just do it, some refuse, but nobody, comes here and gets a pat on the back for spending any amount of adm. If you can afford it, good for you, there's no getting over anything. And what does "oh geez" mean, tells me you might be a bit insecure or something. Please elaborate, I'm here for ya!

 

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[GordoJay]

Unless we get pounded with a recession, I don't expect saturation until MY2025. 2021 was a joke. 2022 is a disaster, production wise. 2023 is already shaping up to be slow. So there's a lot of pent up demand. 2024 might clear that out, leaving 2025 as a possible time to get a good deal.

 

[melvimbe]

If Ford wants to instruct dealerships to sell at MSRP, no ADM, they can do that. However, since the vehicles are worth more than MSRP right now, Ford would also have to put in restrictions on resale to prevent buyers from turning around selling the vehicle to turn a quick profit. It's my understanding that this is Ford's plan for the Lightning?

 

[melvimbe]

Unless we get pounded with a recession, I don't expect saturation until MY2025. 2021 was a joke. 2022 is a disaster, production wise. 2023 is already shaping up to be slow. So there's a lot of pent up demand. 2024 might clear that out, leaving 2025 as a possible time to get a good deal.

Since Gen2 went from 17-20, it's possible that Gen3 will go from 21-24...making 2025 a new model year or an off year. If that happens, might no really be a chance for discounts on Raptors. You could make an argument Ford will hold off on the next Gen due to slow production years. Reasonable. Or you could make the argument that Ford is capable of advancing features, tech, and new parts faster than before due to modernization and such. They seem to be able to put out new models rather quickly.

 

[CINISI]

Get over what?? Nobody comes here for advice on spending 20,000 on adm, some just do it, some refuse, but nobody, comes here and gets a pat on the back for spending any amount of adm. If you can afford it, good for you, there's no getting over anything. And what does "oh geez" mean, tells me you might be a bit insecure or something. Please elaborate, I'm here for ya!

Well thanks for speaking for everyone on the forum. You’re about as eloquent as Pelosi at getting your point across.

You got it ..I’m insecure because I typed “oh geez”. Tell me more oh wise one.

 

[GordoJay]

Since Gen2 went from 17-20, it's possible that Gen3 will go from 21-24...making 2025 a new model year or an off year. If that happens, might no really be a chance for discounts on Raptors. You could make an argument Ford will hold off on the next Gen due to slow production years. Reasonable. Or you could make the argument that Ford is capable of advancing features, tech, and new parts faster than before due to modernization and such. They seem to be able to put out new models rather quickly.

True given past history. But past history also suggests a year break between generations and that didn't happen in 2021. Well, it kinda did. I still think that Ford rushed things for various short-sighted reasons. So call 2021 a virtual break year because they shipped so few, so late. That would make 2024 the mid-gen refresh, right on schedule, and 2025 the last year for gen 3. Then maybe no Raptor in 2026 unless Fiat or GM causes another panicked over reaction. It's anyone's guess, but that's where I'm placing my bet.

 

[CoronaRaptor]

Well thanks for speaking for everyone on the forum. You’re about as eloquent as Pelosi at getting your point across.

You got it ..I’m insecure because I typed “oh geez”. Tell me more oh wise one.

"don't quit your day job" , I have experience in that department, so, words of wisdom bro!