Interesting Scenario

[jazroc56]

I’m curious what people with more knowledge than I will have to say about this. I have a 2022 (no deposit, MSRP) raptor ordered through a local dealership with an allocation. I just ordered it a week ago so there is no build date or VIN number yet, but it’s a reputable dealership nonetheless. Two days ago I found another local dealership with an incoming (waiting on chip) 2021 with specs that are exactly the same as the one I ordered except it’s LFG instead of AMB,so I put a refundable deposit down to hold this truck. My thinking is that I know I can have this truck sooner than later, but I have no idea what the wait time might be on the 2022. I’m wondering what the trade in value would be if I were to trade the 2021 truck in on the 2022 whenever it arrives later this year? Thoughts?

 

[Tm2525ai]

I ordered my 2022 on 10/23, have not gotten a schedule date yet (was told I might this week), but I estimate I won't see my truck until March at earliest, maybe May, depending on supply chains.

Two things will likely happen by then, one interest rates will go up, if you are financing, and prices on used vehicles will drop, how much depends on how many new vehicles start hitting lots. If a lot hit lots, used prices will plummet.
My opinion, but these are the kinds of things I research heavily and know a bit about.

 

[Kojack19]

I would either wait or take the 21. Ledfoot is the best Raptor color FYI. I think the market is so out of whack right now playing the game with the 21 is pretty risky in the short term. What if they announce the availability of the R over the next 6 months? Value of the 21 goes south quickly.

My biggest worry on all of the 21s and 22s is QC-given part shortages which are causing workarounds or production changes. additionally, you have a labor force working on these trucks that you know is less skilled than it was a few years ago. Not a knock on Ford but you see this everywhere-all companies are struggling to retain talent and high quality workers.

 

[tabvette]

Remember the Ole saying, a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. Take the definite rather than the it might happen. Just my 2 cents

 

[jazroc56]

I ordered my 2022 on 10/23, have not gotten a schedule date yet (was told I might this week), but I estimate I won't see my truck until March at earliest, maybe May, depending on supply chains.

Two things will likely happen by then, one interest rates will go up, if you are financing, and prices on used vehicles will drop, how much depends on how many new vehicles start hitting lots. If a lot hit lots, used prices will plummet.
My opinion, but these are the kinds of things I research heavily and know a bit about.

The data that I have read seems to project that used car prices will stay high for some time…especially pickup trucks. But you’re right, it’s a gamble. The other variable is that I want to max out the equity in my current 21 Ram limited toward the purchase of this new truck. The 21 LFG is 5k over sticker and the ordered AMB is MSRP…

 

[jazroc56]

Remember the Ole saying, a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. Take the definite rather than the it might happen. Just my 2 cents

Exactly the saying I’m using to Justify purchasing the 21!!!

 

[jazroc56]

I would either wait or take the 21. Ledfoot is the best Raptor color FYI. I think the market is so out of whack right now playing the game with the 21 is pretty risky in the short term. What if they announce the availability of the R over the next 6 months? Value of the 21 goes south quickly.

My biggest worry on all of the 21s and 22s is QC-given part shortages which are causing workarounds or production changes. additionally, you have a labor force working on these trucks that you know is less skilled than it was a few years ago. Not a knock on Ford but you see this everywhere-all companies are struggling to retain talent and high quality workers.

Do you really think the “R” will have a direct impact on current model values ? I feel like they’re kinda their own entity. I mean, the R is gonna be at least 15k higher at base price, no?

 

[Tm2525ai]

The data that I have read seems to project that used car prices will stay high for some time…especially pickup trucks. But you’re right, it’s a gamble. The other variable is that I want to max out the equity in my current 21 Ram limited toward the purchase of this new truck. The 21 LFG is 5k over sticker and the ordered AMB is MSRP…

Yes, trucks will hold value better, but you never know. I am all but certain we are not coming out of this situation with a flood of new vehicles, they will trickle out over the next 3 years.
My order is MSRP and I am fine waiting.
I am also hgoping the bugs get worked out before they build mine.
I agree the R is not going to impact the market for non-R, unless they flooded the market and were selling at MSRP, which neither will happen. I love my 6.2L Gen1, but time for new tech, new truck.

 

[Kojack19]

Do you really think the “R” will have a direct impact on current model values ? I feel like they’re kinda their own entity. I mean, the R is gonna be at least 15k higher at base price, no?

My view R is priced at 10k more than current model yes it will hit all of the trucks resale-at least in the short term-which is you. Look the 5k number sucks but your trade in is going to be worth less down the line too-weird times in this market is my view. Sounds like you have done a bunch of research and at the end of the day, you know your situation and going with your gut is generally the best approach.

 

[jazroc56]

My view R is priced at 10k more than current model yes it will hit all of the trucks resale-at least in the short term-which is you. Look the 5k number sucks but your trade in is going to be worth less down the line too-weird times in this market is my view. Sounds like you have done a bunch of research and at the end of the day, you know your situation and going with your gut is generally the best approach.

Weird times indeed…