How about, when it shows up, it shows up?

[Raptorbegone]

This is an interesting point of view.

Wouldn’t you say that the auto industry must produce vehicles for Americans (and the rest of the world) for them to buy in order to not have to file for bankruptcy and layoff thousands or hundred of thousands of people…

But maybe you’d rather see a complete crash of the economy and millions of people on the streets begging for food in the midst of a pandemic.

In the end, the auto industry solely builds vehicles to survive (are dealers having the best time of their life robbing people? That’s another story already debated all over this forum and other).

I think that while the auto industry produces vehicles to satisfy their own interests, it's a symbiotic relationship. The world needs their product. Unless you want to ride a bike everywhere.

And dealers are charging what they must. At least all the ones around here have a tiny fraction of their usual inventory. less inventory=gotta maximize profits. Doesn't mean I care or will pay what they ask.

In fact, I think the only morons are those buying a vehicle right now when it is not absolutely necessary

 

[Raptorbegone]

Have fun with those gorillas bud!

I'm in Texas. We were done with that crap a while ago. Get the shot, move on with life. Or don't, and roll the dice

 

[RaptorWhoSaysNI]

I'm in Texas. We were done with that crap a while ago. Get the shot, move on with life. Or don't, and roll the dice

We got off-track there a little bit. If we didn't have all the fussing about getting our 2021 Raptors we wouldn't have this fine forum to vent on. This forum is great fodder for entertainment no doubt.

 

[Raptorbegone]

definitely. I feel for you guys playing the waiting game.

Next subject. I like the 2nd gen front end better anyway.

 

[coryatver]

21, 22 it doesn't really matter for a raptor. I want mine asap. Another reason is im trading a gen2 in. Want to do it while the supply is low and demand is high and trade value is high

 

[Plukerten McGriddle]

21, 22 it doesn't really matter for a raptor. I want mine asap. Another reason is im trading a gen2 in. Want to do it while the supply is low and demand is high and trade value is high

This. I’m getting exactly what I paid for my current rig three years and 30k miles later. Good time to swap into something new.

 

[RaptorWhoSaysNI]

The 2nd Gen front clip definitely will have it's place in history. Obviously I prefer the Gen3 front clip but all three are pretty sweet because they are attached to one of the greatest production desert racing trucks of all time!

 

[Raptorbegone]

21, 22 it doesn't really matter for a raptor. I want mine asap. Another reason is im trading a gen2 in. Want to do it while the supply is low and demand is high and trade value is high

Now talk about the other side of the coin. Paying more for a new vehicle because supply of new cars is low.

Same with houses right now. Everyone wants to talk about making a killing on selling their home. No one wants to talk about getting slaughtered on the price of their new home

 

[tooldrmr2009]

I agree with everything here but I do believe in 5-10 yrs being our 21s will be a very limited production vehicle the prices will skyrocket just like they are now on gen 1s ect. It's happened before it'll happen again, people in general are NUTS and they will pay whatever when they think "something is gonna happen in the world". Furthermore question for you all.....I've done some reading in the past years, models ect of raptors ...it seems as though they are always ordered, released around this time anyway? I've seen past reports of guys ordering in June, July August and recieving in Dec or even Jan feb the next year....if that's the case why's everyone so complainy about owning a 21 next year at end of model year this year....I don't get it. It's happened before .....what's the big stink people have done this before and didn't complain LOL isnt that when raptors come out.

 

[Plukerten McGriddle]

Now talk about the other side of the coin. Paying more for a new vehicle because supply of new cars is low.

Same with houses right now. Everyone wants to talk about making a killing on selling their home. No one wants to talk about getting slaughtered on the price of their new home

I think it’s slightly more complicated than that. Used and new car markets aren’t exactly the same. I’m getting top dollar for my used car but buying new at MSRP. Sure, in a normal supply year I could get under MSRP but not as much off as I’m getting for my used car.

As for the housing market, that’s true as long as your staying in the same area. If I sold a house in Northern Virginia and bought somewhere else (maybe a rural location), my money would go a bit farther. It’s all in the details. Generally I agree with you but there are special cases too.