Has the passive Ford anti-theft ever been defeated?

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pirate air

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I lean towards full-coverage insurance with a reputable carrier as the best 'anti-theft' device.

If someone wants to steal your truck, no amount of clubs, alarms, hidden switches or other anti-theft crap is going to prevent it. None of those things defeat a tow truck, which is what the sophisticated players use. Then they take it to a comfortable location where they can take their time in defeating your anti-theft stuff.

This is for sure, if they want it bad enough, they will get it.

You are all right, of course. If the pros want it then they will get it somehow. It is interesting to me that no one has demonstrated that the PATS of the Raptor can be defeated on the street without sophisticated computer machinery? So, in this case maybe the Lojac is a better way to spend my money than the Ravelco (which sort of duplicates the PATS)? It looks like the only other thing one can do for tow truck theft is to park the truck back end first. A tow truck ain't quiet and dragging an 6000 pound truck with it's rear wheels locked on to a flat bed ain't quiet either so if I hear them, I'll stop them. If all else fails I do have good insurance - at those prices it better be - and I'll have Lojac to have a chance to find the truck. The console vault will protect items from the smash and grabbers and the Club will hopefully visually put off the joyriders. Also the tailgate locking collar will stop folks from walking off with my gate when I forget to lock it with a key. That's all about anyone can do without a viable garage.

Thanks for the advice! Time to think about fun things to buy for the Raptor.



John

I've NEVER heard of anyway to over ride PATS without the right software, in fact, I bet its nearly impossible. The only possibility I could see is if the thief switched out the appropriate modules with ones already programmed for a key they have. That would take quite a bit of time though, and they still have to break out the lock cylinder. I think your lo jack route is good. The pats system is pretty damn secure, the codes transmitted are rolling, in other words the code that worked on this key cycle will not work for the next. There thousands and thousands of combinations the system will rotate through.

Be careful with remote starts. Depending on how they operate, they can be the worst anti theft thing you can do on your vehicle. All after market remote starts have to simulate the chip code to start the vehicle. Some companies will actually use a programmed chip out of a key. This hands the code right over to the thief, all they have to do is look for it inside your truck.

PATS is good until you give up control of your keys. All it takes is one person at a dealer to burn a key and pass it to the bad guys. The have access to your keys as well as your address info. Easy pickings.

This is not entirely true, because its not that easy. I've been in the business for almost 11 years now, 8 of which being a master tech for multiple manufacture lines. As of a few years ago, in order for any parts department to cut a key, they must have a form of the owners identification that matches the registration to the vehicle they are cutting for. If dealers get caught cutting with out the proof then they get in HUGE trouble. If the parts guy did cut one for a thief, the key still needs to be programmed before it will start the truck. So now you need a mechanic to be in on it too. This would all have to happen when your truck was in service at the dealer. You would have to have a ring of people in on it, I just don't see it being that likely. A roll back would be easier.
 

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You are Correct kglesq, so I will go ahead a put a "back-up replacement" order truck in the order bank for you ............... lol

You know these Raptors are limited production, and won't be built for much longer for the 2011 MY cycle. 2012 has yet to be anounced ??? So just being proactive for you........... :Wedgie:


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You're a prince Randy.
 
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