GASOLINE OCTANE

[Space Ghost]

During briefing, a supervisor (Sergeant) addressed the night shift and after reading all the BOL stuff, he made a profound statement, which is absolutely true. Basically he said if two cops that are best friends are under investigation he would segregate both. He said he would tell the first cop, “you can save your job if you roll on cop #2. Immediately afterward the Sgt would exit the room. He said he would then tell cop #2 the same thing before exiting that room. Within a flash of an eye, both cops would meet him in the hallway and point at each other, saying “he did it.” The Sgt said, maybe neither were guilty, but they would do anything to save their job. True story and great Supervisor. That sir is camaraderie! Cops have families, homes and kids. I don’t expect anyone not a cop to understand. Your definition of camaraderie and mine are different!

Sounds like a department with 0 integrity

 

[ToadSmasher2K1]

Sounds like a department with 0 integrity

Background checks and overall hiring process wasn’t very thorough

 

[Nex]

Brings up family during an argument and I'm the asshοιε. Classic.

 

[HighwaySentinel]

During briefing, a supervisor (Sergeant) addressed the night shift and after reading all the BOL stuff, he made a profound statement, which is absolutely true. Basically he said if two cops that are best friends are under investigation he would segregate both. He said he would tell the first cop, “you can save your job if you roll on cop #2. Immediately afterward the Sgt would exit the room. He said he would then tell cop #2 the same thing before exiting that room. Within a flash of an eye, both cops would meet him in the hallway and point at each other, saying “he did it.” The Sgt said, maybe neither were guilty, but they would do anything to save their job. True story and great Supervisor. That sir is camaraderie! Cops have families, homes and kids. I don’t expect anyone not a cop to understand. Your definition of camaraderie and mine are different!

I will start this by stating that I am in fact a cop, as well as a supervisor. And, by what I can glean from your posting history, I am almost positive I work for the Department from which you retired (which is kind of embarrassing considering how you conduct yourself). Now, the first story you told about a supervisor trying to get to officers that are under investigation to roll on each other is ridiculous. No supervisor is going to approach officers under an active investigation and violate their POBR rights. And no good supervisor is going to pit two officers against each other to find out get an answer to a question they probably already know. That would in effect ruin the investigation. So, if this is a true story, this "great supervisor" is a dumb@ss. And, your agreement that this is the way to handle things puts you right there with him. Yes we have families and homes, but I have always felt that if someone decides to make a decision that puts those things in jeopardy, that is on them. I will be truthful when being asked about the incident. That is all that can be asked from any of us.

On to your definition of camaraderie. From your post, it appears you think a good example of camaraderie is a sergeant who does not respect his officers enough to let the investigation run its course and would rather have them lie to keep their jobs. For me, it has always meant having friendship and trust with those who you spend a majority of your time around. It is also relationships with people who understand what it is like to do the job each and every day and the inherent dangers the job has. This does not just include the patrol officer, but also includes the fire fighters, paramedics, tow truck drivers, and hospital staff. Considering you have served in the military and have more than 30 years in law enforcement, you should understand this. Maybe the 5 shootings (not normal) you managed to get yourself into has even more of an effect than you understand. I'll leave this with something I had stated earlier. "We all have beat partners like K9"

You are "that guy". The guy in the back of the briefing room with his chest all puffed out who thinks because he has a bunch of time on and has been in some hairy situations is better than all of the other officers in the briefing room. The guy who has nothing but negative things to say about the job, and the public that he is supposed to be serving. Your employer is lucky that you retired and gave up your seat for someone who wants to be there.

 

[K9 EXPERT]

I will start this by stating that I am in fact a cop, as well as a supervisor. And, by what I can glean from your posting history, I am almost positive I work for the Department from which you retired (which is kind of embarrassing considering how you conduct yourself). Now, the first story you told about a supervisor trying to get to officers that are under investigation to roll on each other is ridiculous. No supervisor is going to approach officers under an active investigation and violate their POBR rights. And no good supervisor is going to pit two officers against each other to find out get an answer to a question they probably already know. That would in effect ruin the investigation. So, if this is a true story, this "great supervisor" is a dumb@ss. And, your agreement that this is the way to handle things puts you right there with him. Yes we have families and homes, but I have always felt that if someone decides to make a decision that puts those things in jeopardy, that is on them. I will be truthful when being asked about the incident. That is all that can be asked from any of us.

On to your definition of camaraderie. From your post, it appears you think a good example of camaraderie is a sergeant who does not respect his officers enough to let the investigation run its course and would rather have them lie to keep their jobs. For me, it has always meant having friendship and trust with those who you spend a majority of your time around. It is also relationships with people who understand what it is like to do the job each and every day and the inherent dangers the job has. This does not just include the patrol officer, but also includes the fire fighters, paramedics, tow truck drivers, and hospital staff. Considering you have served in the military and have more than 30 years in law enforcement, you should understand this. Maybe the 5 shootings (not normal) you managed to get yourself into has even more of an effect than you understand. I'll leave this with something I had stated earlier. "We all have beat partners like K9"

You are "that guy". The guy in the back of the briefing room with his chest all puffed out who thinks because he has a bunch of time on and has been in some hairy situations is better than all of the other officers in the briefing room. The guy who has nothing but negative things to say about the job, and the public that he is supposed to be serving. Your employer is lucky that you retired and gave up your seat for someone who wants to be there.

Highway Sentinel, I should have known the CHP…..AKA …AAA with a gun. Actually I did 7 years with the CHP, 3 as an Academy Instructor. After getting sick of calling tow trucks and writing tickets, I lateraled to OPD and finished at the DEA. Before you answer the next questions, if you lie, even on this forum, you will be subjected to Brady and if you bring discredit on the CHP, you will be fired. Unless something very bad, Supervisors investigate officer wrong doing, correct?During what is called a Form 8, Supervisors can misrepresent facts to all the Officers involved, correct? I think the point of the Sgt that indicated he could flip officers was, keep your nose clean. If that is a violation of POBR, the ROE has changed. Did you ever witness, or participate in falsification of LIDAR, Range and or First Aid Certification? The CHP only requires a GED to get hired and most stay at the CHP because you can train a monkey to write traffic tickets and call tow trucks. It is an easy job! Only one of my shootings occurred at the CHP. Afterward, I was reassigned to the Academy. I did not volunteer, I was assigned. I suspect you spent a lot of time in Special Duty riding a desk. The Commissioner told me he wanted me to relay my experience to Cadets. I was assigned to EVOC. I was also REQUIRED to provide a Critical Incident Class. I saw much of the inter workings during those three years. Cadets passed certain required classes, based only on their gender or race. Just like you won’t admit, many are promoted based on gender and race. Anyone that works for the CHP and views themself as Highway Sentinel, has a problem with identity. Didn’t the CHP recently have a Captain murder her spouse? Actually there is a long line of murderers that use to work for the CHP. There is also a ton of Officers whom got caught falsifying OT, but it was swept under the rug to save face. GED! If you don’t get anything else Mr Blue and Gold, everyone knows someone at the CHP. I still have friends that wear stars on their collars at HQ and my guess is, you used Highway Sentinel previously, because people like you let the lead badge go to their head! Remember I started this thread and wrote about gasoline, but you had to make a crack about my being in LE and not remembering facts. Based on your attitude, I assume you were a court officer that delivered tickets to court. In my time the people in briefing would call you a REMF.….google it!

 

[jAKe47]

Get a ****** room already

 

[BoostCreep]

 

[tm965]

 

[GCATX]

 

[BigPig]